Calling Semi-vintage Samick Experts...

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  1. Poodlesrule

    Poodlesrule Well-Known Member

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    A few years ago, in a far away place I bought this pawnshop Samick bolt-on neck LP.
    Pickups sound microphonic, but the guitar a bit (lots) out of adjustment.
    This is at my sister's across the pond.
    Samick body.JPG
    See other pics below - I goofed posting pics.
    (more pics, like headstock, metal neck plate with SN, etc. , not shown here)

    How do I best approach some minimal rehab, given that I my not have much time or tools on site? This is just a guitar to kick around, not meant to become a serious player.

    I have a pair of AL2000 pups...
     

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    Are you asking how to install pickups or are you asking how to do a set up? Does either require a Samick expert?
     
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    Lamf77 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Well, I am no expert...but do have an older model Samick Artist Series. Same body shape, but set neck. Great guitar and I am always looking. I have not seen any Samick Les Pauls with coil split switches. Plus you have what looks to be two larger/newer volume pots.
    So it was rewired. Hopefully everything works, because it's past my pay grade on wiring issues. I would not change the pickups. The stock Samick may be better than the AL 2000.

    If everything works....ya need new knobs (sorry no Jessica Alba). Not sure if it is the angle of the camera, but the top left pot looks to have a larger post. Need to investigate that.

    My noobie 2 cents.
     
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  4. Poodlesrule

    Poodlesrule Well-Known Member

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    OK, thanks.
    I bought it in a hurry before getting back stateside, so, my take on it is slim.

    Item 1:
    "Samick expert" refers to someone who *may* have seen this build before, bolt-on and all. This guitar was sold in Europe (unless some dude dragged across continents-unlikely)
    Item 2:
    Before doing any pup change I want to do an approximate setup and cleaning, and see what I get.
    Item 3:
    The wiring did look stock to me. That is, extra switch locations (split coil?) look spot-on, not hacked. Again, it would help to know more about this series, if it was one, at some point.
    Item 4:
    Pot knobs, what size shaft should I get?
    Best style to go with this (honey?) finish?

    Samick forum anywhere??
    See serial number in post below.

    Keep them coming!
     
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    EDIT: was probably made in 1993 per some Samick serial number site.
     
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    If you are trying to restore it, you probably have coarse-spline pot shafts and need to buy knobs for imports (coarse spline). The one pictured is a 60's style gold bell knob. They have the reflectors in the center, stating 'tone' and 'volume'.

    If you are going for something different, the sky is the limit. Amber or black knobs. Speed knobs. etc.

    Good luck! Keep posting pics.
     
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    I have established it is likely a 1993 LSE 450E.
    "E" for cheaper version of the LS series, which preceded the much nicer Artist series (isn't the web great!?)

    More pics, you say?
    Samick_Headstock.JPG Samick_tuners.JPG P1000898.JPG

    Does cavity look stock or modded?
    Why would someone add what must be coils split wiring switching on a modest LP copy like this one?

    I will be at my sister's soon, so I will start working on it.
     
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    I say it's modded because the pots are different sized. I have a LC650. I have not opened her up in a while (insert joke here); but I remember it being all minipots.
    When I get a chance tomorrow, I snap and post a picture or two.
    There was a Ibby Les Paul up on CL a few weeks ago with the switches in the exact same spot. I could not find one image of the same model 70s Ibanez Les Paul with those switches anywhere.

    I doubt Samick would upgrade the wiring on the bolt on version.
    Here's the one I have, you can see the body shape is pretty much identical.
    People pay out the butt for Epiphones made at the Samick Plant...the Artist Series Samick Guitars are a hidden gem.



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    This Artist in black makes me think of ditching cream for black livery, even though the LSE has darker burst...
    Black rings, no pickguard, black knobs?
     
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    I've got a CSBF set neck like that (crème plastic though) from 1998 and I have to agree. The build quality is as good as anything else I have and the stock no-name pickups are excellent. I replaced the mini-pots and switch (but not because they needed it) and left the pickups alone...
     
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    I would remove the one knob you do have and see if it fits the other posts. Again, the bridge volume pot looks bigger. If it fits, then just get four Chinese made knobs to fit Epiphones and the like and you'll be fine. Maybe black rings. I would leave all the hardware along.
     

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