Corn's Field of Nightmares

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  1. cornfed

    cornfed Well-Known Member

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    Like others before me, I've decided to start a thread of (most) projects, builds, headaches, mishaps and victories in one constant sorrow thread. For the most part I post the victory, and not all the ugliness that it takes to get 'er done. I'll try not to cheat too much and show all the screw ups too.. the never ending learning curve can be very painful and very rewarding.
    This might be a scrambled mess of stuff that's been on my list of things to do that never gets done, so I figured if I started this I'd have too... Get 'er done.
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    I told yall I'm gunna try my luck with binding..
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    If you build it, they will come.........
     
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    tvvoodoo Well-Known Member AGF Registered Dealer

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    I'll be popping your space by unannounced quite a bit, I think. I feel most at home in such threads, where I can cheer and/or jeer the ongoing monster..., I mean MASTERpieces
    (I'll try to keep the heckling to a minimum).

    Hope you don't mind!

    Congrats :thumbup:
     
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    I'm In A Thread Of Constant Soorrrrrrrrooooooooooww!
     
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    cornfed Well-Known Member

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    Macro doesn't lie, dull router bit is apparent, new $25 bit isn't on agenda, and what I have on hand is a perfect channel for the binding. Machinist friend out of town, Washburn on hold, Wood shop friend out of town, body still needs to be sanded to correct thickness, but the front and sides are ready to go so lets bind the front...
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    Binding samples worked good, color scheme works good
    neck is being reshaped, logos are being thought
    I found my new favorite store in town is called Th&h , its a candy store for wood workers.. think Rockler but 10 times bigger and a lot cheaper. They have Alder body blanks for $20, Ash blanks for$24, quarts, gallons and spray cans of nitro. I bought a can of nitro and I probably won't be buying deft rattle cans ever again..
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    cornfed Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure glad I asked my neighbor to give me a hand with this, what a nightmare it would of been with one person. It seemed pretty easy with this Roo-Clear glue, I can't imagine doing this with a krazy glue

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    This will sit until tomorrow, then I'll clean up, scrape and sand.. I'll do the back in a few days
     
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    Looks good and clean from here. I'm still trying to figure out why it says there's only 1 (two now) replies to this thread.
     
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    tvvoodoo Well-Known Member AGF Registered Dealer

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    Best buy a couple of gallons nitro. Over on TDPRI (I think) there is a panic on about tru-oil being suddenly banned in cali... nitro will be next
     
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    rmfroyd Well-Known Member AGF Registered Dealer

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    Nice work Corn. Doing binding scares me.
     
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    You are a brave soul no doubt. I'm "glued" to this.
     
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    Yeah baby, love these kinda threads...
     
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    Lesson 1
    Oh crap! I can't compete with these other threads here, but I like to be abused so I'll just pretend I have talent.. .. ,, .. All those rumors you may of read about binding being a pita is all bs, look at these pics and see how easy it is hehehe. ... Here is where I started, cleanliness next to buzzlyness, well, the further I went along I figured I don't need to rush this sh%# so I cleaned up as I went along (good idea) I got a little better as I went..
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    This is probably the worst of it, this inside corner didn’t cooperate and it’s really the last place to start. Starting at ‘er butt and working toward ‘er curvy section last would be a better idea.. I know a few that may disagree with this senario :p but in fact . Not routing the neck pocket, but leaving the radius continued into it , and then after binding finish the route might be easier.. maybe , fug if I know
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    . Lesson 2.
    Scraping the binding is not all that difficult but the one thing I learned was not to get all excited too quick (well, I learned that many years ago but I still can’t help it) and put too much pressure in an outward motion while scraping. I started seeing the binding pulling from the body, luckily I saw it in time and was glued back in
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    Okay back to ‘er inside corner.. So 2nd attempt to get that binding to hold in there nice and tight failed too, so what do you think I did?… Yes, a shot a Forkin nail into it.. “oh no he didn’t’ Oh yes I did, hehehe. Sometimes you gotta show ;er who’s boss “don’t get stubborn w/ me or I’ll shoot ya!” I’ll be repairing them holes later

    I’m laggin on this thing and I blame the weather,, I fell like I’m going to melt into a stinking sweaty pile of human stench.. This is supposed to be fun not work!
     
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    Love threads like this. I need to get building something so that I can do one.
     
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    I finally got around to binding the back, I figure it wasn't too bad so I'll go for it by myself,,, oops... "Help!".... "Help"... My wife was a pretty good hand but really didn't grasp the whole concept of how tight it has to be to the body... Holding onto the body while holding the binding firmly in place and trying to grab a piece of tape and hold "it" in place while keeping pressure while... yea, not a one man/girl job. It really does take an extra hand, but im'a gitt'n there.
    With my rough tools and hand shaping the body, it's far from being perfect. Not being machined and only hand shaped leaves what feels good and looks just fine but binding shows where the arches and radius's are a little wavy
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    I experimented bending the binding.. 1. Hair dryer- No Way!.. 2. Heat gun - F that and, 3. torch - Yes, but if you're not careful you can melt it right in half :p
    this wasn't too bad although the one side didn't glue too well but that's easy to re glue fix
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    here it is after I re glued........................................

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    I've been having to go back and re glue little thing here and there but the second time seems to be stuck for good..(I hope :) )
    Hammer time......................................
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    If anyone needs some advice please ask, I'm learning things to make it easier next time.. next time pffft lol
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    Okay, that's enough binding pics , hopefully I'll be on to staining and sealing soon
     
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    This is perfect. I just bought a tele body from Jjegg that I was thinking of doing double binding then painting black. A few questions..

    What router bit did you use?

    Where'd you get your binding from?

    Binding before painting? Or vice versa?

    Did you consider using acetone instead of glue? I saw a video where a guy did that. It melts the binding. He also filled the gaps by mixing acetone and binding bits to create a filler paste.

    Great work by the way!
     
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    cornfed Well-Known Member

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    Yes bind before paint.. it's messy.. Binding was bought from china http://www.ebay.com/itm/160970228973?ssP...1497.l2649
    I got lucky with the router bit, I have a few bits and had to swap a bearing from a round over bit to a straight bottom bearing bit ended up being perfect ,, good luck with it[hr]
     
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    Don't know how I missed this from last month, but this is awesome corn!
    Gives me hope for the archtop's neck. I'll hit you up if I ever get to it.
     
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    You guys that do binding are tops in my book!!
     
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    The last pic in your post #14 looks really good.
     
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    cornfed Well-Known Member

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    I had a piece of 2" brass lying around and I'm too cheap to buy a neck plate...
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    TV... love yor straps, but when I saw this luggage strap in a thrift store for .25 cents. I thought of you.. :p


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    The made in china pickguard needs a lil' shapin'...

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