How Did Jeff Beck Do This?

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  1. Tyrannocaster

    Tyrannocaster Well-Known Member

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    Okay, we all know Jeff's Boogie, right? I've been playing this tune since I was 16 so yeah, you could say I know it. But there's ONE little riff that I can't get right - I have the notes down but I can't for the life of me figure out how he gets that weird, spongy, violin like no-attack sound. I'm thinking either the amp was just so cranked (small amp) that it compressed like CRAZY, or they used some monstrous compression in the control room - something that a lot of British engineers were doing then.

    Let's see if I can upload the lick in question as an attachment; it isn't very big (less than 90k).

    Anybody got any ideas?
     

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    Well played, sir. Well played.
     
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    Tyrannocaster Well-Known Member

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    Seriously, though...
     
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    I can’t get the attachment on my device. Where is it in the tune, in respect to song length?
     
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    Not that I’ll be able to help....just curious now
     
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    It's the sixth break (that is, the sixth time the group stops playing so Beck can do his little cadenzas - I don't count the intro as a break) and it starts right at 1:21 in. It's the one after the ascending lick on the upper E string he doesn't quite pull off. :) (Close, though - and let me tell you, that run up the neck is not an easy one to play. It sounds like it should be, though.)
     
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    Nobody got any ideas? Everybody's as clueless as I am? Is that even possible?
     
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    Beck for Jeff Bump.
     
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    It's those little details that sets Mr. Beck apart from us mere mortals.
     
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    Tyrannocaster Well-Known Member

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    Well, for now I'm sticking with the overdriven amp theory, although it would be a a radical departure from the rest of the tune. Beck did get a few really odd tones; the strange noodling in "I Can't Make Your Way" (on Rave Up, IIRC) sounds like it's underwater and at times seems almost backwards, but I don't think it is.
     
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    Haven't heard the clip. Was it volume swells? JB used those to good effect.

    Just heard it. Not volume swells. My best guess is quick whammy bar work to give it that out of tune effect he uses at times. I am interested to know if you do ever figure it out for sure.
     
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    In those days he played an Esquire (though like almost everybody, he added a neck pup) most of the time. He didn't start using a trem on recordings until Happenings Ten Years Time Ago, if that was him - he and Page both played on that one. And it really wasn't until after the short-lived original JB Group (with Rod Stewart) that he started using a Strat. It's not a whammy bar in any case, as with that, all the notes bend. I can play this and you don't need one at all. But getting that truly strange sound...that's a different story.
     

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