I See Two Broken Echoplex On Cl | What's A Broken Echoplex Worth?

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  1. golem

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    Maybe for fun, but even The Edge has gone over to Fractal and Eddie gave up on his years ago. Not sure if Gilmour still uses his or a delay now. Working they'd still be worth something though I'm sure.
     
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    Oh no doubt it makes no sense to gig with one of these. I don't even know how much I want one. I'd own it for about the same reason I own a typewriter. As a mechanical object of historical interest and beauty that I occasional use just because I can.
     
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    If you could get them working they sound glorious, great for recording and home play, too fragile to gig with. Fix them, keep one, sell one.
     
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    Working they sell for several hundred, but it is a small market and you need patience to get max value. If they are tube models, they should be easy to fix, and most parts are available or suitable substitutes can be found, but it may be time consuming and pricey.
     
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    East Bay Ray gigged with one (I think it was only one) all throughout the DK years, and they had fans all over the stage. I think there may have been some luck involved, but they really aren't THAT fragile.
     
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    There's a local guy who is recovering from a back injury who has a lot of spare time (I think he's on disability), is a bit cranky, and says he repairs amps and is willing to take items in trade. I might talk to him about whether he'd be willing to give this repair a shot, but not until the CL poster actually responds to an email.
     
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    Good news is: "the tape is spinning" which means the rubber belts and capstan still function. Which narrows down the malfunctions to (in no particular order):
    - Tape not guiding through the path correctly
    - Connection jacks broken
    - Heads are destroyed. The pickup coils are protected by a thin layer of clear lacquer. Magnetic tape is essentially 2000 grit sand paper and wears down the coating over time. Maintenance procedure is to have the heads 'lapped' (recoated). When you don't do this (most guitar players don't know to), the magnetic tape rips the pickup coil from the head.
    - Heads are magnetized and need to be demagnetized
    - Ferrite worn off the tape
    - Something in the electrical amplification path. Transistor or cap.

    Last one I repaired was 2003. $275 is pricey for (2) in this condition.

    I think I recently saw replacement tapes. Jacks, transistors, caps, resistors can all be substituted with great results. Replacements for the heads and guides I am not sure exist and would not know who to send to to rebuild (if at all possible). I have relapped tape machine heads and it is a chore.

    I sense you are out for a piece of functional history. If you are looking for the effect, I have the new Dunlop EP-103 Echoplex pedal. It is everything I remember in the original, sans the trouble.
     
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    If they were local to me, i'd offer $200/pair and have them on my workbench before the weekend.
     
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    @andrewsrea (or anyone else in the thread) have you ever tried the Catalinbread Belle Epoch and if so, how does it compare to the Dunlop EP-103? I have the former and would love to take the latter for a spin sometime.
     
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    I have not tried Belle Epoch. My friend just bought the newest version released a month or so ago and loves it. I've seen a lot of YouTube on it and was actually considering it, when I settled on the EP-103.

    I have a Danelectro Reel Echo, which is nice. It does a psuedo 'sound-on-sound' that my old Univox tape echo did. It has a cooler warble mode like a 50's echo.

    The EP103 sold me on very rich echos, tape aging sound that let's you dial in tone roll-off and distortion ('age' modes). It also convincingly does the speed-up / slow-down effects. I've seen about 15 EP-3's in my day and borrowed my friends for month's at at time. I know the sound and the EP-103 is close enough.

    For what its worth, I also have a Digitech PDS 1002 with the 'hold' button (ala: Alex Lifeson on Moving Pictures) and a DOD R-880 which are also pretty cool.
     
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    good vid comparisons of various models.
    second vid has real Binson echorec, Boonar, Catalinbread Echorec, and Echosex.
    They mention that Gilmore now uses a Boonar



     
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    I am addicted to That Pedal Show, but wish they could stick to 1/2 hour formats more often. Some of their segments get long.
     
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    Maybe between the two of them there are enough good parts to make one working model.
     
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    Not likely. One of them is a 1960's tube based EP-2 and the other is a 1970's solid state EP-3. The EP-2 is worth more and probably easier to fix, the EP-3 is going to be more reliable once working and is the sound most of the modern pedals copy.

    If anyone wants to risk life and limb to pick them up, I would be interested in buying either one, but especially the EP-2.
     
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    I contacted him yesterday but haven't gotten a reply. Same thing happened last time. Ferguson probably won't have protests this week. Most protests tend to downtown.
     
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    How safe is Ferguson during non-protest weeks?
     
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    I actually like the Roland better but would never consider the tape option today.
     

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