Need A New Nut Sx Ash Hawk (new Style)

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  1. CyFan4036

    CyFan4036 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been looking to get a new nut for my Hawk. There’s a lot of binding going on now that I’m really pushing it with bends and began using Trem. I can get the measurements but I don’t know if I need a flat bottom or curvered. I also don’t know what my board radius is and rondo doesn’t specify. Anyone have any helpful tips or options for me? I’m thinking Tusq but just don’t know which one. I’m thinking one of you guys have swapped it out already because I think it’s a weak spot. I thought of filing it but I want to upgrade for some better tone anyway. Plus I don’t have a set of nut files.
     
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    I searched the site before posting this question and didn’t find anything relavent. I googled the same search terms and was directed to...you guessed it! Right back here! I found great information and decided after much time measuring that the graph tech tusq pq-5042-00 was the correct one given the odd radius of the Hawk fretboard. The tusq May be ever so slightly more narrow but I don’t think it’ll be enough to matter. Weird this thread didnt show up on the site search.
     
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    If you're going to replace it anyway, why not try fixing it first? If you dont have any nut files you can round the slots using old wound guitar strings. Make sure the basic channel slopes down away from the front of the nut, with the tuner side lower. And widen just the exit points on the tuner side the same way. After you do do that, dump some graphite in there and see how it is. I've also used teflon lube for bicycles there with no problem. If you have a plastic nut, you'll find it's quite easy to work.
     
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    get a Tusq XL, Fender style with flat bottom.

    I put them on all of my Squier Strats and my SX Hawk.
     
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    The Tusq nut you refer to looks about right.
     
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    It can be a little tricky, as they make a few Fender-style ones. Some slotted, some not. Some flat bottom, some not. Some XL and some not. And they come in slightly different dimensions.

    The Hawk has a nut width of 1 11/16", so you want to get the Tusq XL that fits that.

    This one will work if you can't find a flat bottom:
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PQL-5000-00
     
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    I looked at those but I couldn’t find one that matched up closely to all of my stock but measurements. That and with the radius being significantly off I’ve never filed the slots before and worry about ruining it. The 42 seems like it’ll be a direct drop in replacement.
     
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    I was thinking of that but upon further inspection the original nut has all the slots cut at an angle rather than straight. Probably a part of the binding and tuning stability issues I’m having.
     
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    The XL doesn’t have the correct height(too short) by my measurements and graph techs website. I’d prefer an xl but I’m concerned about filing down the inner four strings to match the radius. I’m pretty handy but I also don’t want to end up with a $50 nut because I keep screwing them up. Did you file your inner four or just use it as is?
     
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    On all my guitars with Tusq nuts, I just filed down the bottom until I got nice action. Never bothered with the slots because there was never an issue.

    But then, I'm not super picky and am the opposite of someone with OCD.
     
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    If that's the case, you can just put a little thin strip of cardboard under the nut to make it taller. It's been a while since I put the nuts in, but I think I did have to do that on one guitar. Was not an issue for me at all.
     
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    with most of my Tusq nuts, I did have to sand down the edges a bit to make them flush with the neck.
     
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    Seems like shimming with cardboard would deaden the strings vibration some...
     
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    If you're happy with the string spacing on the stock nut then that's cool.
     
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    then shim with something harder.
     
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    Nut slotting skills are a great thing to work on. I slot all of my bone nuts from blanks. Your sx neck should have a flat bottom. I started out by reworking the slots on some of the old plastic factory nuts, the tusq work well, as do the bone. You can get nut slot files, or source a variety of tools to do the job, feeler gauges, welding tip cleaners, etc.. The only thing I have shimmed with is wood.
     
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    Yeah, I’ve been playing it a lot and I really like the feel of it overall.
     
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    I was looking at a set of stainless nut files. They’re actually pretty cheap. I just want what is going to work and sound the best.
     

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