Need Help Deciding Between Sx Strats

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  1. Jaymo

    Jaymo Active Member

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    So, I'm looking at three different SX Strats: GE Rose orange/yellow, Hawk natural alder, and Hawk ash.

    My hands are wide and thick.
    My fingers are a bit thick, but not long.
    Size medium gloves have the right finger length.
    Size XL gloves have the right finger and hand width.

    So.....Is Gibson scale better for my hand size than Fender scale, or vice versa?

    All three seem to have the same nut width (1-11/16") and neck radius (12").
    What practical difference will the scale length make for me?

    What tonal difference is there between the ash and alder Hawks?
    Is the ash Hawk worth the extra cost, vs the Rose or alder Hawk?

    The one thing that I do like better about the Hawk is that a standard Strat PG should fit, making changing it out to P90s easier.
    Yeah, if possible, I'd like to be able to swap out between P90s and Strat pups.

    Does the alder Hawk have a bathtub route?

    I have a bunch of questions about these models.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Links to the specific guitars:

    GE Rose: http://www.rondomusic.com/product9209.html

    SX Hawk MN Ash: http://www.rondomusic.com/product7683.html

    SX Hawk MN Alder: http://www.rondomusic.com/product8927.html

    I've got one of the NA Ash Hawks, I'll check the pickup routs tomorrow. However, I also have the Trans Blue ash Hawk and that one has a S-H-S rout. The pink GE Gypsy Rose has a bathtub rout. @Mossman has the sister purple fade GE Rose so he could tell you what the rout was on that, I'm sure both are the same. I've also read that it's a fairly simple procedure to convert a H-S-H rout to a bathtub one...
     
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    tonray Well-Known Member Supporting Member+

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    It's easy if you have a router... A bit more challenging with a hammer and chisel especially if it's some mystery wood with diamond level hardness ad I once discovered... Blisters on my hands after a few hours of chipping and tapping.
     
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    For the hands you describe, I’d definitely recommend a 24.75” scale length.
     
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    I have 2 SX Furrians that I replaced pick guards on with PG's from Stratosphere. The holes didn't necessarily line up but I just filled the old with toothpicks and re-drilled for new. Otherwise the PG fit like a glove. How they will fit on a SX Strat I can't say. Also. my Furrians were routed for single coils.
     
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    Mickey Gandalf the Intonationer

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    Did someone say SX Strat? :)

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    kungphugrip Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    EasyPeasy !
    HAWK natural alder all day long woooooo!
     
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    The Gypsy Rose doesn’t just have a ‘swimming pool’ rout... It has an Olympic-size swimming pool rout.

    Way bigger than it has to be.
     
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    dabbler Well-Known Member Supporting Member+ Gold Supporting Member

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    I'ld go with Alder for a traditional single coil strat.
     
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    I'd do trans-blue ash... but it's gone. Damn!
     
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    With fingers like that, you may want to find a neck with the widest nut you can find....maybe 1 3/4"
     
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    jam Well-Known Member

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    I bought one of the 1-3/4" nut SX strats a few years back when they were on sale for $99. Got a bunch of stuff for it: A8 pickups, Mexi trem... Haven't done it yet, but it's pretty good all on its own.
     
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    as an outside SX strat choice
    the mahogany bodied dual p90 Hawks are nice, too.
    I'm lubbin the two I recently got.
     
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    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Not available as a lefty...
     
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    jamdogg Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    this is THE strat to get.

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    or this one....

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    Ash or alder, everyone should have a Strat made from each. My ash trans blue is routed h-s-h. A standard fender pickguard fit like a glove but did need all but 1 hole redrilled. I have pretty stout hands myself so I can relate to your concerns. I’ve found Fender style necks to be the most comfortable to play for me personally when it comes to stock. If I’m getting a lp I really need a wide neck to feel comfortable. Don’t know why but that’s the way it is for me. Good luck! No matter which you get you are going to be pleasantly surprised if you haven’t played one before.
     
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    This sounds about right. Mahogany is a bit unique for a strat but it looks good and reports about them are positive.
    I have 2 sx ash strats and 2 sx ash teles. The ash ones are great. I think they put not just better prettier wood, they spend more time and effort knowing they sell for more.
     
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    I think this is the one to beat. Gotta love a nice piece of ash

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    Hmmm, looks like an LTD there, and I kinda have to agree as I love mine:

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    And I love it not just because it has a neck that has flame for days. It really plays and sounds good, and it sounded special even before I changed out the pups.
     

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