Best Glue / Adhesive For Small Tolex Repairs

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  1. Lamf77

    Lamf77 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Grabbed a Fender BJ for a great price last week. Only issue is the tolex is coming undone in several places. I used Rubber Cement for very tine jobs before, where only a dab or two was needed.
    I used it the other day and it did not hold at all.
    I don't need quarts or gallons, just a few ounces.
    What is the best adhesive to use on tolex?
    Thanks in advance!
     
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    fullonshred Well-Known Member

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    Any reason not to use superglue?
     
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    Lamf77 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    I was not sure. The cab is MDF and the tolex is older. Was not sure how superglue would work on two porous surfaces.
    Just wondered if there was anything better or more proven.

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    What other glues do you have on hand? Is it black or tweed vinyl? What sort of backing does the "tolex" have? (It's probably not real "Tolex", not that it matters).

    I've used 3M Spray Adhesive, Tite Bond, E2000, and super glue with decent results. Haven't tried Gorilla Glue but it would probably work.

    After gluing, I press the vinyl down with a burnishing tool of some sort. Then I put a brick or something heavy on top of the glued vinyl to compress it while it dries.

    I'm old enough to remember when we used to be able to buy highly-carcinogenic, super-poisonous, high-inducing, and highly flammable adhesives, cleaners, solvents, and paints that worked exactly the way they were supposed to. No warning labels, either. Back in those days people had enough horse sense to intuitively know not to eat it, smoke it, inhale it, throw it in the reservoir, or bathe babies and puppies in it. All you had to do was smell it and you knew it was poison. But you also knew it was going to do the job. Damn, I miss those days.
     
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    Lamf77 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    I have clear gorilla glue. It says not for porous surfaces.....but I can try it. Its a Mexican Made Blues Jr....so I have no clue if it's real tolex or not.
    Anything from Amazon that may be tried and true?

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    I have used 3M fabric adhesive with good results. worked wonders on the old vinyl headliner in my old Ford truck too.

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    Thought gorilla glue expanded when drying? Hide glue is probably what you want but not feasible in small quantities. Would try one of the titebonds as mentioned.
     
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    If the Tolex is porous, I'd try Elmer's or Gorilla wood glue. I've used it on porous coverings before and it works well. As mentioned above, the regular Gorilla glue will expand when it dries and I don't recommend it for what you're describing. It works great on out-of-sight bonds though.
     
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    Clean the area and use Horse Hide glue, is my favorite. Nice working time, long lasting and can be undone with heat and steam.

    Rubber cement sometimes doesn't work and will dry out over time. Crazy glue is not flexible and will break loose with temp swings. Gorilla and other urethane expands as it cures, so won't look flat. Epoxy is hard to mix for it to be cured and flexible. Elmer's dries brittle and is really sensitive to moisture. Wood glue can work, but not as good as Horse Hide.
     
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    You can still get contact glue which is slow drying but if used with care will glue most anything. I had a poly crank case breather broken in half which most types of glue wont touch and contact glue worked fine and is still holding. I would bet that contact glue is what most of the old amp makers used back in the day.
     
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    I do a lot of repairs to amps, guitar cases, and such. Superglue. Wear rubber gloves.
     
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    Is this the stuff.

    https://www.stewmac.com/Materials_a...XSPLBSOenYIKm8lF9qaKZa2y-jFgJ4SMaAvFxEALw_wcB

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    3M Super Weather Strip Adhesive. Black. If your talented you can even mimic the texture of missing pieces of tolex. I use it all the time with my restore projects.
     
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    That’s a good question. I’ve used titebond type 3 on a plywood and Tolex covered cabs. It’s relatively waterproof and strong. It’s safe to use type 3 or the original titebond (or type 2) on mdf in addition to wood. They’re all PVA type glues. The original is dissolvable and not waterproof or very heat resistant so that might be a concern.

    Lots of great suggestions here. I think contact cement or 3m adhesive is well regarded for larger areas. Hide glue is perfect if you don’t mind having a large quantity. Super glue is fine for smaller repairs in some cases. Different horses for different courses

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    Titebond 4 oz Hide Glue available on Amazon Prime for $4 something free ship versus Stew Mac $9 shipping add on.

     
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    Assuming you meant E6000? I'd add my recommendation for E6000.
     
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    Well....I tried the Gorilla Glue (before I dropped any more cash on the hide stuff). Kept my fingers crossed since the label says "not for porous surfaces". However, it held really well! I also think the books you use to apply slight pressure make a big difference!

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