NGD Casino Coupe W Mods

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  1. nomadh

    nomadh Well-Known Member

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    Well that 15% off used at gc sparked me looking and I found a blonde casino coupe. I've been reluctant to buy because they tend to be expensive and rare. I only got to play a sample 1 time for a min. This was well priced but the 15% off wouldn't apply but by then I was hooked so I bought it.
    I really want to downsize my collection so how could I justify this guitar. I already have a dot studio and a fully hollow beautiful johnson jazz box. Both very good guitars. Both rarely used. My hope is the coupe replaced both these. For me the dot although not really too large to be comfortable is more a solid body to me and bigger than needed to be. The johnson is very big feeling to me. It also is too resonant at rock volume and gain levels. The coupe is a nearly unique product, a goldilocks guitar. Not too big, not too small. Not too hollow, just hollow enough.
    I want to add this is a modded coupe. They come with dog ear p90s but this has buckers. Not a fan of the limited dog ear adjustment. The worst case scenario here is new pup rings to hold p90s if wanted. The mods were quite competently done w just a hair of a sawmark showing.
    Just had time to tune it and we threw it into practice. It did very well with lots of resonance carrying the tone when needed. A few times I let it sing past song queues screwing up timing because it just sang out so nice. It didn't do it every time I wanted but it will take time to learn what turns her on.
    So far, its a competent guitar. Out of the chute it made for a very good practice, even with the other guitarist out. It certainly has the live singing resonance in some cases I was looking for. A few times I couldn't find it and a few times it took off on me but a lot of good in the middle. I do not have a clue what pickups are in it. I didn't have ant time to tone sniff or do much eq but its passable for now. Practice is at my house and for the 1st time ever they were all early and waiting for me when I got there. So plug and play baby.
    This does have the classic epi D neck people have been taking about. Feels much thicker than 60s gibson or fender. Probably not bad but will need to learn it. Great size and weight, nice frets and good looking guitar. I think it was around $320. So a good deal if I don't keep it but so far it's looking good.
    Here's a pew pics
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    The last pic shows the dog gear mounting hole and I can see the dog ear outline in the finish. Also you can see a bit of the original route under the rings and a tiny oversaw that shows at the lower right under the neck pup.
    Overall well done. I'll have to pull the pups and hopefully I'll find some nice probuckers or such. I suspect more midgrade or at least something only moderately potted. We will see.
     
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    That's sharp looking

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    that looks fun!
     
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    Anyone else mod theirs with buckers? How were the p90s? Was their adjustment a pita?
     
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    This seems all kinds of wrong to me... :)

    But HNGD!
     
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    I'm sorry to say I am with you on that. But, HNGD!
     
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    Congratulations, nomadh! Happy New Modified Hollow body Day!

    Matt
     
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    That's funny because it didnt even register at first that it was missing the p90s. My other hollow and my semi both have bucker s. I was thinking a P90 might be a little uncontrollable in an hb. Also like I said, I never see one so it wouldn't look wrong to me.
    I guess that's why so cheap :)
     
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    The stock epiphone P90s aren't all that great so depending upon the Humbuckers, they probably did it a favor.

    Also the stock dogears are hard to find replacement covers due to the oddball spacing of the neck pup.

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    HNGD!

    Is that model a fully hollow like the standard Casinos?
     
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    That was what was in the back of my mind. The dog ears look cool but very impractical.
     
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    Yes, very similar. Kind of has a big spine block glued to the top. Maybe 3-4 in wide and 3/8 thick with 2 edge spines about 3/4" thick. Still very acoustic or at least audible unplugged. Maybe not much quieter than my martin backpacker acoustic.
     
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    Thats nice!
     
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    There are many over on the Epi-Talk and MyLP forums that would disagree with that. Many seem to prefer the Epi P-90's to their Gibson counterparts, and many have/or had guitars with both.
    Especially true of the newer ones and the P-90 Pros. FWIW, according to Epi they have never made, or used, a ceramic P-90. HB's yes, but not P-90's.
     
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    FWIW, the stock P90s on current Casinos are awful. Overwound with thinner (43awg) wire to 13k(!).

    Tim @Buddha Pickups rewound mine to 8k(ish) with 42awg wire. They sound freakin' fantastic now.

    Very close to the Gibson dogears in the Elitist Casino I used to own.
     
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    That was based upon my experience with my Epiphone Casino with dogear P90s much like the ones no longer in the OPs guitar. Most accounts I've read seem to agree with me, but it is a subjective thing as are most all guitar related things.

    Maybe I only find what I'm searching for, how to fix the pickups in my Casino...

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    So you are saying epi "firebired" their p90's?
    I had the opportunity to use a 59 gibson es-175 tdc and it was a blast.Had to eq my amp to a spectrum it had never been before to make it work but then it worked like a mofo. It was an incredibly dark pickup. Once adjusted for it was a wild ride.
     
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    After practice I'm wondering about that epi neck. First time in a long while I got cramped doing bar chords.
    I'm really hoping to like it and sell my other 2 guitars.
     
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    I don't know what 'firebired' means, so I'm not sure if that's what I'm saying. (n)
    Unless you meant to type 'firebirded'... In that case, I still don't know what it means. :neutral:

    If the neck on the Coupe is the same as the full-size Casino, it's thinner than the old Koreans. Or I should say, it's flatter... '60s Slim Taper.

    I like it better than the old neck, but I prefer thin necks.
     
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    Yes firebirded. Gibson firebird pickups used to be thick wire alnico low ohms buckers. Now they are thin wire wound to something like 16 or 18k. Maybe went to ceramic but I may be misremembering.
     
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