Did A P90 Mag Swap.....oh Lawd!!!!

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  1. Hoser

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    I had a furrian that I put a fender neck on, but left everything else stock. The stock pick ups were decent but wanted to play with the mags since I never did it before. I pulled the ceramic mags and replaced them with A2 mags. I thought there would be a bit of a difference but I wasn't expecting this drastic of a difference, for the better, much better. The neck pickup is true p90 perfection. May play around with A5 in the bridge, but i'm really really surprised how different these cheapo pickups sound. The whole process took me about 15 mintues.
    I'm hooked.
     
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    Where'd you get the mags and how hard was the swap process?
     
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    P90 mags are very simple and you can find them on eBay
     

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    From a number of YT videos, it looks pretty easy, especially with P90s...

    addiction-fx seems to be the most popular source:

    https://www.ebay.com/str/addictionfxguitarandsound

    I would have gone that rout but I just bought some A3s for humbuckers from Philadelphia Luthiers because there were a few other items I neded from them...
     
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    Tell me about the A3, sitting in the middle of A5 and A2? Then there's the A4, which seems perfect from what I have read and listened to. And, then, what about the smooth and course, whats that do?

    Pick ups are fascinating.
     
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    That's good to hear... I got a set of A2 magnets for the SX P90s I took out of my Furrian. I just have to find a guitar to stick 'em in!
     
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    I've got a set of Giovanni GVH-2s that use A3s and I really like them. However, one of my all-time favorites are the Custombuckers in a Custom Shop R7 GT. Doing a little research I discovered that they're basically Burstbucker 2&3s with A3s instead of A2s. Epi Probuckers are basically Burstbuckers so I'm going to swap the A3s into a spare set of those and see what happens...
     
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    LOL, maybe I'm just overtired or maybe it's my PC speakers but they all f'n sounded pretty much the same to me...
     
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    Aw man, you gotta listen with headphones... GOOD headphones. Not that cheap set of cans you have right now... Go spend like $300 (don't get Beats!), then you'll really hear how similar they sound. :ROFLMAO:

    The only one that sounded noticeably different to me was the A3. From A4 on, they all pretty much sounded the same to me too.
     
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    roughcast, or sandcast, having the rough surfaces, will help mellow the highs if that is ever desired.
     
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    A2 is known for it's smoothness
    A5 for aggressiveness
    Ceramic even more aggressive
    A3 is actually weaker than A2, and brighter
    A4, to me, sounded like a really bland A2...had no character to it's tone. Just kind of...flatter EQ or something, I dunno
    A8 also exists, which sounds somewhere between 2 and 5 for me

    But hey, sound is subjective
     
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    P90 magnet swaps are super easy. I like A5 in the neck and A2 in the bridge
     
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    Yeah p90 magnet swap is super ultra quick and easy.

    I'm curious about the A5 neck/A2 combo though. The reverse always made more sense to me. Love that A2 neck Slash-tone.
     
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    Seriously took 15 mins to swap, pull the pickup out, remove 2 screws from the back, pull out old msgs, put new mags it with marked ends facing same direction and repelling along long end carefully put backing plate on, screw down pick up back in place, tune up and go.
    I love the a2 in neck. I've never been a fan of A5s but curious how it sounds in the bridge against the A2, I know it seems backwards but curious.
    Seriously fun.
     
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    Have you played a low output A5 though?

    I prefer A2 myself neck and bridge, but A5 isn't quite so harsh when it's not so high on the DC scale.

    A8 as well. Doesn't have to be super hot. The stock A8 buckers in my 76 Ibby destroyer sound nice and vintage-y :)
     
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    I’m a fan of the Slash tone as well. I think an A5 in the neck gives it a bit more edge though, and the opposite goes for an A2 in the bridge. Kinda tames the hair a bit.

    Before I trusted myself with a soldering iron I had an Epi Les Paul years ago with a Duncan 59 neck and pearly gates bridge. Even the guy that installed them raved about how it sounded.
     
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    FWIW, the Gibson 498T/490R humbucker set which had been standard issue on Studios up until I think fairly recently uses an A5 in the bridge and an A2 in the neck. You'll also find plenty of people unhappy with that combo too...
     
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    A2 - Less distortion (Smooth) - Lightly scooped (Less mid) - Extra in high frequency (Will show as presence)
    A5 - More even freq output (More mid drive = extra bite/distortion) - Still has extra in high frequency (presence/shimmer)
    A8 - Higher output - Causes more compression and note distortion -
    Ceramic - Flat response - More distortion / bite - Less presence - Think of the classic Dimarzio Distortion humbucker.

    Coil winding will also change the tone and example is a SD Jazz and SD 59' are both A5, but the Jazz is much more scooped.
     
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    Hm, I didn't know those were a mixed magnet set. I guess I'd assumed they were both A5.

    But I thought the 498/490 combo was like the standard bearer that is the baseline Gibson sound, whereas some lower end guitars came with 490/490 which a lot of people didn't like.
     

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