Do I Need A Bigger/better Amp ?

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  1. tonray

    tonray Well-Known Member Supporting Member+

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    Ok...this is a weird one.

    I have this Maya clone Strat which I love. Feels great to play....strung with 11s it resonates and has a great tone even when not plugged in. I also have a very simple setup...a Zoom G1 Four into a NUX JTC Looper and Drum pedal into a Blackstar Fly 3 mini amp. ...and I can get some decent tones from the setup no doubt.

    ...But there is something lacking so much that I actually prefer playing unplugged...playing unlugged I am free of futzing around with the presets, freed of futzing with the looper, etc etc...but I don't think that is it. I really think the tiny amp and small speaker are crushing the tones possible from this guitar.

    Am I just straight up crazy for thinking a bigger amp (even at low volumes) is the solution ?

    I played yesterday plugged in and....meh....put it away telling myself I sucked...this morning just played for 20 minutes unplugged....and wow.....just wow.

    Comments ?
     
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    If you are able to without pissing off neighbors l would say yeah. There is just something satisfying about moving air that a micro amp cannot provide IMO.

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    You don't suck, it's just hard to sound amazing on a mini rig. Those Blackstar amps are usable for things but not something that you'll ever really be able to get "the tone in your head" out of. Tiny speakers will always sound tiny and harsh. Mini amps have their place but unless you absolutely CAN'T have something larger due to lack of space it's not something I would ever recommend for a "main" rig.

    You would do much better in my opinion even working with your Zoom into some cheap studio monitors or something similar.
     
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    tonray Well-Known Member Supporting Member+

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    Looking at the Vox AV15 right now....Blackstar going up on Craigslist today...
     
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    They say bigger is better....
    I have to agree, the more air you move the better your tone will be. That being said, I know you have space and neighbor concerns from your posts here.
     
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    What about a low what micro tube or hybrid amp? Orange Micro Terror or Joyo Bantamp?
     
  7. tonray

    tonray Well-Known Member Supporting Member+

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    Yeah, that's why I'm considering the Vox AV15. Hybrid and from what I can tell great tone.
     
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    Yes, the answer is always yes.
     
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    Get something with a 12" speaker. It will put a smile on your face but it will take up more space.
     
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    I'll say I am fully impressed with my Vox mv50 head with the optional 1x8 speaker cabinet. When you engage the eq switch to increase bottom end that little 8" sonically morphs into something bigger.

    It was about $200 for them both separately since I got the amp for $120 as a SDOTD and the cab I used a $30 off $100 coupon.

    I used to plug it into the 12" speaker in my Monoprice, but I haven't found the need since I got that 8".

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    My practice amp is typically a 70w.
     
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    One thing I never quite understood is why guitar amps seem to usually "need" at least a 10" speaker, and bass speakers are sometimes even bigger (and sometimes smaller!) when home stereos don't use woofers anywhere near that big.
     
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    What about a Katana?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    That’s a good question. I think the simple answer is what it’s designed for. I worked in Hi-Fi sales and installations for a long time. Some of the bass drivers were smaller than 10” no doubt. Sometimes The most efficient job that they do can be very focused around a low crossover point, say a maximum of 80-120hz (maybe higher but often with a sacrifice to one of the key points in size/power/or frequency response), after which the roll off is very steep and your other speakers take over. With a low E being at about 40hz on a bass guitar, you can start to see why the low end would sound amazing but after an octave you’d be losing a lot of snap and spank


    And yes you need a bigger amp. I like the Vox amps too. There’s so many good choices, it’s a good time now to see what conveniences you care about the most. Tubes are fun though and the hybrid amps are a cool way to go

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    Maybe the guitar is great but the pickups suck? Take your guitar to the store and see what works. I have 1 guitar where the pickups only sound good through 1 amp and setting. See if you can find any pattern otherwise you are so wildly guessing you may get nowhere. Flipside is take your rig to the store and see if it is better or worse with different guitars. So far you got a whole puzzle without a picture to reference what your building.
     
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    This is also true of bull dozers! :)
     
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    As mentioned above, the answer is always yes. My brother has the Fly and I was not impressed. Get you some studio monitors and use the Zoom if you like the sound of it.
     
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    The 50 Watter may be a bit too big for my needs...but I will likely look at that also
     

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