Fender Vintera Line

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  1. LessPawl

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    I'm a little slow on the draw when it comes to what's new in the world of wood and strings. i watched a video last night of the Fender Vintera line of guitars. I was blown away at how nice they look and more importantly how great they sound. The price point looks to be right at 800 to 1000 bucks depending on model.

    I was looking at the specs and I have to say, I concluded these were great guitars at a pretty decent price. My personal favorite is the Thinline. I took a gander to see if there were any Lefty's. Nope not a single model for us. I guess that's a good thing, cuz I was ready to jump in the Vintera water. :)

    Anyone here have one? If so, thought. Thanks guys, have a nice day all.
     
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    LessPawl Well-Known Member Supporting Member+ Gold Supporting Member

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    Made in Mexico, Poplar BUMPAGE
     
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    I feel like there was a thread recently I commented on where several posters here were saying they're overpriced. I actually think the top of the line MIM guitars (like Robert Cray Sig, Troy Van Leeuwen Signature, Roadworn, etc.) models are as good or better than the American guitars that can be found at the same price. Certainly better stock than many of the MIJ guitars that have been popular recently.

    I haven't tried the Vintera series yet as I mostly focus on trying guitars that I can grab at big discounts new or find a good deal on used. But, I will say that if they're like the higher end MIM that came before them, one shouldn't ignore them.
     
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    I want that Vintera Mustang...

    Sadly, it’s a tad out of my price range… Though… If anybody wants to sell their vintage modified mustang in order to help themselves finance a Vintera Mustang :sweatsmile:...
     
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    I am confused on what market they fill. Are they supposed to be Fender's version of Squire's Classic Vibe?

    If so, just rip a page off Gibson's 2019 approach: if vintage specs are the most popular, just make that the standard and use economies of scale to increase the value to the customer.
     
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    They're replacing the classic series guitars that were in the Mexican line previously.
     
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    Right?
    Vintage specs DO seem most popular.
    Makes sense.
     
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    An interesting observation, at least to me. Lots of people I meet when I'm jamming with the guys constantly complain about Gibson and Fender due to their 'lack of innovation" It would seem to me, that "vintage" stuff will always be the most desired. The problem is, the vast majority of us regular folk don't have 15k to infinity to drop on a guitar .The Gibson new issue 59's and other desired years sell like crazy. These Fenders i brought up come in at a decent price and fit the profile of "vintage" via their specs.
    This is the best form of innovation to me. Realizing what your customers want and making it happen. Why fix what aint broken? Pardon the ramble, I was thinking out loud via this post. :) If the Vintera Thinline was available in Lefty, I'd be shopping for one.
     
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    IMHO you can pretty easily find a used american standard or american special tele/strat for a couple benjamins less than one of these. The American Standard tele in particular is a great mix of modern and vintage - old style bridge and saddles, but a modern C neck and bigger frets. You can find them in very good shape for $700-800 pretty handily.
     
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    Does it have BACON in it ?
     
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    @stevebway, asking the IMPORTANT questions. :LOL:

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    I often wonder if the folks how complain about 'innovation,' aren't just folks who always complain about something.

    IMHO, if innovation was the most popular guitar attribute, people would be snagging up PRS, Parker guitars, etc. at a much higher rate than I perceive really happens.

    For me I really believe even new guitarists (young and not-so) see the value in the golden era of guitars and there is a very big market for that. If you built a consistently high-quality Strat to the '59 to '64 specs, a '56 Tele, a '59 Les Paul, etc., using simplification and economies of scale - lowering the price, you'd not only command the new guitar market - you could make some tidy profits.

    Variability in a factory creates complexity, which creates quality and cost risks.
     
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    Bacon Burst, now that's a top i could live with!!!!!
     
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    The actual meaning of my facetiousness is : We don't want "Vintage" per se because vintage is better. We pretty much want what we learned on or aspired to have.We learned to make something comfortable.
     
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    The guitar industry is the only one that looks backwards. As much as people love classic cars, you don't see GM coming out with "vintage re-issues", or hear people pining for a car with crank-down windows and a carburetor for that 'vintage vibe'.

    Legacy guitar manufacturers just can't win... People complain that there's no 'innovation' but as soon as they release anything new, everybody goes: "ew, nobody asked for that!", or if they try to update their traditional guitars with modern features, all the purists cry foul (Robo-tuners notwithstanding, of course... NOBODY wanted those).

    I'd like to see Gibson either re-introduce the volute, or make a shallower break angle at the headstock, but I know it'll NEVER HAPPEN. Better to let 'em keep breaking I guess... Doesn't matter to me, I'm never going to buy a new one, and the only one I can say I have enough GAS for used would be a Junior, or a DC Special.

    How about giving Epiphones a Gibson-shaped headstock, FFS? They'll sell more Epis for sure, and make a dent in the Chibson market, I would imagine. What about an Asian-made line of Gibson branded guitars in the PRS SE price range? Too much overlap with Epiphone? Ok, then rebrand all the Gibson-style Epis as Gibson SE (or whatever) and keep the traditional Epiphone archtops (Casino, Sheraton, Rivieras, etc.) as Epiphones. That's pretty much the way it was back in the '60s (minus the Asia-made element, of course). Then, they can do all the modern tweaks on the Chinese-made Gibsons, and that could be a test market for new ideas while keeping the MIA guitars "traditional".

    See? I'm a frickin' genius... I just saved Gibson and made everybody happy. :D
     
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    @Mossman IMHO, the single biggest mistake Gibson made was to get rid of the Volute. That little extra chunk of wood would have saved 1000's of Gibson owners from many tears and lots of fear when they have their Gibby's out in the wild. I know alot of "purists" don't like the volute. Me, I have them on a half dozen guitars. They don't interfere with my playing in any way, shape, or form. I wish every guitar I owned had a volute. As far as seeing an Epi with Gibson shaped head stock, I don't think that'll ever happen. That classic and iconic head stock is MONEY for Gibson. It's timeless and widely admired in all guitar circles. They know that and for that reason, they won't budge. Thats's my opinion on it. I'm going to take a wild and totally uninformed guess on Epi sales vs Gibson sales. I would guess that Epi sells 5X the number of units (minimum) than the big daddy company.
     
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    I guarantee if you found a way to mass produce this 1960's car as-is, for $30K, it would be the most popular car in the US market:

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    Rob, can i get a Blue Metallic model for no up charge???? Woo HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Agree. Ferrari 250 GTO in Blue Metallic. Accept no substitute.

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