NGD Fernandes Rubber Jig (mij)

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  1. golem

    golem Well-Known Member

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    This morning I saw a craigslist post for a Fernandez Rubber Jig (RJ-95T). There isn't much information out there in English on them. I know they were exclusively sold in Japan and that's about it. I was definitely intrigued when I read one post from someone on the lespaulforum stating:

    As the Wizard of Ozz mentioned, I do own one of the original custom shop guitars of this line (picture). They were originally called the Rubber-Jig. It is essentially like a '57 LP with a rather futuristic body. The one piece neck is huge... as big as the biggest '57 Historic neck I have laid my hands on. The guitar has a long neck tenon, kluson style tuners (that I replaced with the WD Kluson replicas, a real maple top (no veneer here)... As far as tone is concerned, it's a monster. I would say it's about 95% there compared to my 1995 '59 Historic. I picked that '59 from 14 other Historics, so you can only imagine how good this guitar sounds. https://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?20847-Ravelle-USA-custom-shop

    The seller's pictures were a bit blurry so I got in contact with him. Mike, the seller, seemed like a really nice guy. He told me he had bought the guitar on Reverb from Japan a few months before. The photos below are actually my very guitar, sold by Ishibashi on Christmas Eve for $840.61.
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    So naturally I wondered why he was asking $500 for it. Surely something had to be wrong with it or he was desperate for cash. To a limited extent, both were true. The seller had found a vintage Ibanez Iceman he had to have and he had relic'd it. To be honest, the job he did on the body is respectable. I, however, was not a fan of the job he did on the headstock. How bad? Well to the point that I was reluctant to check it out even with the lespaulforum user swearing it was 95% good as his favorite R9.
     
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    Well I talked him down on price and agreed to meet him at a show he was performing at tonight at a local casino. He was a very nice guy, his band was fun to listen to, and playing the guitar I was pretty sure it was worth at least the price I had talked him down do despite the relic job which, I feel, had devalued his guitar significantly. I'll try to take some pictures in the morning. Special attention will be paid to the headstock. WARNING: Those of you who hate relics will be triggered by the headstock.
     
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    There's a bit of me that feels the nut, which looks like it may have been replaced, needs the nut filed. It's as if the wound strings are just ever so slightly muted compared the wound one. Maybe it just needs new strings...? It just feels ever so subtly off. Like someone did a really good job.
     

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    Looks pretty cool. I'm a Fernandes fan but never saw this one before. HNGD/ Look forward to the new pics.
     
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    Your time has value but is the headstock at least restorable?
     
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    I had a ravelle and it was a very nice lp style guitar. I would buy one again with no hesitation.
     
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    Boy, I just never understood that "relic" thing. I know they're different deals but would anyone expect to get as much for a car or truck if they did that to it before they tried to sell it?

    I guess it's more along the lines of "antiquing" furniture...
     
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    I have a roadworn 50's, that relic knight tele, and I once briefly owned a Joe Strummer Tele. A professionally done relic job has a nice feel to it. Unfortunately, this relic job is mostly just cosmetic.
     
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    Well, at least they didn't do the Gibson relic job of snapping the headstock and gluing it. I have seen that done unnecessarily on several relics and its god damn depressing.
     
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    @MrM0964 : For real? At least it will be stronger and the fix professionally done.

    Turns out these humbuckers are FHM6210N from Fernandes. They sound good enough that I thought they might be low output aftermarket PAFs. Definitely no need to replace.


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    I don't get it either. I guess it's like buying jeans with holes already worn in them.
     
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    Very nice. Helluva deal. May look even better without the pg????
     
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    They sure as heck would.

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    The trend has hit the custom car market. They'll usually try and find one with a nice patina on it already, but they do have methods of accelerating age to make replacement parts match, or to just do the whole damn thing for the looks.

    There are a shit-ton of old, beat up farm trucks around here (small town in Northern Utah) and they all look like this from driving around with caked on salt. It's a thing to fix them up, leaving the aged look and buying new rims/tires/light bars/etc.

    Some of them look like they drove through Pep Boys with a magnet attached. Some of them look killer.

    There's a couple 70's era Blazers cruising around here that I'd love to get my hands on.


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    I really dig that Revelle, I'm jealous. There was one in a used guitar shop I always tried to work down into my affordable price range, to no avail. They are just the right kind of ugly as hell in my eyes. If George Barris ever designed a guitar...
     
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    It's official: I do not understand human beings...
     
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    I don't either - but, to each his own. As long as it hurts no one, I'm cool with it.
     
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    I put new strings on it. I think I used a lower gauge so now the lower strings sound normal. It might need a truss rod adjustment which I'm always a big wimp about.
     
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    You said that much nicer than what I was thinking..... :D
     
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    In this case the seller clearly knew he had devalued it. I think people who do this have a strong desire to personalize their guitar and aren't concerned with losing value. This particular player is in a cover band that has a decent local following (I bought it from him at a club and the club was packed) and I think he liked to have somewhat unique guitars that have a retro vibe to them. I do buy relic'd guitars (own a roadworn and that Knight tele) but it's definitely not something I'd pay a premium for or consciously desire. I do, however, like it when someone does a really good job of the back of the neck. I love that feel.
     

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