First Scratch Build(s)-The RIT Dye Burst Experiment Update-01/20/12

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  1. howardlo65

    howardlo65 Well-Known Member

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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-An almost there update!!!! 01/07/12

    Still looking great. Can't wait to see the bone nut!
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-An almost there update!!!! 01/07/12

    :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

    Is that enuff :thumbup:

    Great job man.

    Keep the pics comming.

    Anybody bored wiith this isn't really into guitars.
    :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
     
  3. tonebender

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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-An almost there update!!!! 01/07/12

    Simply amazing, being able to watch this thing come together. I wish I had the skills you have. Oh yeah and patience. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
     

  4. emoney

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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-An almost there update!!!! 01/07/12

    It's alive!!!....well, almost;
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    Technically, it still needs a lot, but I at least got to put a couple of
    strings on it just to make sure I hadn't screwed everything up. It
    was close I tell you. So, after all that effort of putting two tuners
    in, a temporary nut and the bridge....well, it all had to come off
    because now it's time for;
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    What you don't see pics of was all the sanding that I did this afternoon.
    These guitars are a lot bigger than they look, lol. Walnut is just like
    Mahogany in that it's an open grain. Open grains need filled before
    you start finishing, if you want a "mirror like shine", which I do. So,
    get out the squeegie thingy and slap it on;
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    I always wet the grain a little to get it standing up. Once I've pushed
    the filler in everywhere it's supposed to be, then I take a damp wrag
    and wipe all the excess off now. I found this out the hard way as my
    last build I left it in the state above and let me tell you, THAT was a
    LOT of sanding. So, it looks like this now;
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    Once I finished the top I flipped it over and did the back and the neck
    too, but I figured one pic of that is enough....lol.

    Oh, and I started my "special project" today too. I told you I'd reveal
    that today, so even though I'm not done, here's where I'm at;
    First things first....dinner was this;
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    I need to make a nut for this guitar and don't have any bone blanks
    laying around, so I "borrowed" one;
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    After it was all cleaned up, I marked it and cut to rough size;
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    Once I had the rough shape I was looking for, I decided to dye it
    black because I don't what that ugly "bony" looking thing up by the
    pretty headstock;
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    Once it's dry, I'll go ahead and cut it to fit, sanding the bottom and
    front side flat, leaving an angled towards the tuners on the back and
    rounding over the top. We'll see if it works or not but I figured, why
    not try it, right?

    That's it for today. The next update will begin the applying the finish
    stage. I'm thinking I'll tint the back a little red, leave the top clear
    and shot the whole thing. Wish me luck!
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    That is looking good there Money. I dont know bout that bone though Rib bones are hollow you should get a piece of round bone they are thick and make a nice nut. saw it in half and cut to thickness
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    Holy nut bone batman. You are actually making the nut out of a piece of bone and carving it out by hand.:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

    Never thought I would see that.:thumbup:
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    Awesome stuff.
     
  8. emoney

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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    I'll change it out Harp when I know I can
    do it. This ones got marrow in it,lol.
     
  9. tvvoodoo

    tvvoodoo Well-Known Member AGF Registered Dealer

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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    Hey Ridwolf, it's not that hard. Well, the technique. The bone is!

    CHECK THIS
     
  10. emoney

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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    Ok then....I finally hit a goal!! Woohoo.

    I made a committment to myself that I'd get this build undergoing the
    finishing stages this weeked come hell or high water. Well guess what,
    I did! Once the filler dried, I simply gave it another, final sanding,
    put a cup hook in the spot where the bottom strap button will go and
    hung it up on the strongest thing I could find in the shop;
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    I'm following the ReRanch schedule of shooting lacquer in that it gets
    3 coats a day, 30 minutes apart for 3 days. Here's day #1;
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    You really get a good look at your wood choices when that first coat
    of clear goes on. That's it for now. I'll update again when all the
    clear coats are on and she's hanging for drying. Thanks for watching.
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    I was scrolling down with my mouth open in amazement
    I have lil to add or say especially when u got to the rib bone, i was floored
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    Ok, I know I said there wasn't gonna be a lot of updating during the
    finishing stage, but there's another reason for this particular update.
    I forgot a step, lol. At work today, I realized that I didn't drill for the
    controls or the p'up selector. What a goober. Anyway, it could've waited
    for the clear to be finished, but that just means I need to be extra, extra
    careful drilling them then, so why not go ahead and do it, right?
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    I use a styrofoam template for this because I wanted something that
    had a little rigidity, but that would flex with the top carve. You can
    drill these without a template, but I like to make sure the holes are
    where they're supposed to be, lol. So, since I'm in the updating mode,
    why not throw a few more pics of the guitar in finishing stage, right?
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    Even though it's not even 1/2 way through the process, the sheen is
    already starting to show up. I really, really like this Lacquer.
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    I know it's not "real nitro", but it is the 21st Century's version of it and
    quite frankly, I think it sprays better. Plus, I guess I'm getting better
    at the process since this is the 2nd guitar I will have sprayed now. Oh
    also that Bloodwood veneer I put on the back of the headstock is
    really starting to "shine";
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    I'm very glad I decided to add that to hide those seams. So, this time
    for real, I'm done, lol. Not with the guitar, but I'm done boring you
    guys with finishing photos. I know, I know it's only exciting to me
    so don't worry if you're yawning while you're reading this. Oh, and
    since I'm caught up on this one, I went ahead and restarted on #3
    as well;
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    But unless someone really wants ANOTHER build thread on that one,
    I'll just save those pics for the end. Have a great night!
     
  14. gearhead1972

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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    Rules of 3 is 3 coats 3 hours apart, for 3 days.
    Looking real nice though, one day when I get a bigger shop I will do a scratch build. My buddy gave me a nice piece of maple for a neck.
     
  15. emoney

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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    I'm using this "fake Nitro", so 30 minutes it's dry enough to recoat.
    It actually goes on a lot better I think. Evidently, it's got more
    plasticizers or something in it, so it wouldn't be ideal for something
    that you wanted to fade overnight, but that's not me anyway.

    You know, there's a guy over at MLP building a guitar in his laundry
    room....lol. He's got a VERY flexible wife, I must say, but there's
    always a way! COme one gearhead, let's see it!
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-The "Oops, I forgot something important" Update 01/09/12

    Looking good. I admire your skills and could only dream of completing a job like that.
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-IT'S ALIVE...well, it WAS alive update 01/08/12

    I see, didn't realize you were using that kind of nitro. Yeah maybe I'll start laying out a tele neck on that piece of maple and that will get me going on the whole thing....Hmm another buddy has some reclaimed walnut planks...Mable and Walnut, that would look nice
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-The "Oops, I forgot something important" Update 01/09/12

    While that's very flattering, 6twang, as all the comments like this have
    been, TRUST me, if I can do it.....so can you.

    Thankfully, when it comes to our beloved Les Pauls, there's a TON of
    information on how to build them from REAL professionals. As most
    of us know, guys have painstakingly measured and remeasured the
    Holy Grails of the world, and all that information, along with plans,
    tips and ideas, are available for the asking. Heck, like I mentioned
    before, there's a guy in Japan doing this stuff with nothing but hand
    tools. I'm WAY too lazy for that route, however....lol.

    My main reason for this thread was to prove to both myself and all of
    you guys, that it doesn't take an "artist" to build a beautiful instrument.
    It really only takes "desire" and the will to explore. I'm getting redundant,
    but, I want to finish with this statement 1 more time -
    IF I CAN DO IT, SO CAN YOU!!!!

    Thanks to each and everyone of you that have commented on my
    thread along the way. Sorry it took a little hiatus, but knowing you
    guys were along for the ride helped keep me motivated and my
    eye on the ball, so-to-speak!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-The "Oops, I forgot something important" Update 01/09/12

    this thread rules!!!
     
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    RE: First Scratch Build(s)-The "Oops, I forgot something important" Update 01/09/12

    I'll echo that sentiment. I'm almost teary-eyed looking at that thing close to being done.

    I must also add, there's been a ton of good build/mod threads here lately. I can't even keep up.

    Thanks everyone for keeping me motivated & entertained.

    Cheers big-ears!
     
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