Gibson Les Paul Supreme?

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  1. toomanycats

    toomanycats Well-Known Member

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    Anyone here ever own one?

    It's a "holy grail" guitar for me, solely for this reason:

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    Maybe one day I'll own one. I saw one in person years ago on 48th Street at Rudy's Music, but didn't have the nerve to ask to play it at that time.
     
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    Do they snake all the wiring in through the huge jackplate?

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    Damned if I know, though I do have a lot of similar questions regarding the construction of the Supreme.

    I think it was a model introduced in the 70s, which makes me wonder if the neck is maple and the body a pancake.

    And what are the stock pickups?
     
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    I do not have a real one.
     
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    I've seen a couple of Chinese fake ones, but never a real one. They were popular with counterfeiters a few years back, so beware.
     
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    I think "supreme" was less a model than a style for Gibson over the years. I've seen some modern custom shop ones with crazy flame front and back in all sorts of different colors. Or was there a specific model of Supreme you were referring to?
     
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    I saw a really awful Chinese copy at a pawn shop once, they new it was BS but still wanted $450 for it!
     
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    Didn't Niel Shohn also play a Tokai sometimes?
     
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    agree supremes have been all over the place, i think i saw one recently with a jazzbox neck joint
    and a mini bucker in the neck! wild!
     
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    no shame Neil is a legend!
    his Goldtop with the Floyd has a similar effect on me!
    love the glassy attack!
     
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    I was thinking about the specific guitar Schon plays in the "Anyway You Want it" video. It would probably be a late 70s model.

    Not sure about Tokai, but Neil did have a signature model Aria Pro II.
     
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    Hahahaha Any Way You Want It may be my favorite song of all time. It's just the greatest.

    It always cracks me up though when it dawns on someone that Don't Stop Believing is the far more popular song. Of course they're both great but that one hit me like a freight train, and I've seen that same freight train hit others.
     
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    There was a radical shift in Journey's sound from the album Departure, which "Any Way You Want It" is on, to the Escape album a year later.

    I feel like that after Departure when Rolie and his Hammond B3 exited the band their hard rock/blues soul was torn out.

    Departure is a bridge album in a way, clearly more slick and commercial than Infinity and Evolution, though not quit yet all the way to the pop, synth, anthemic, ballad tuned glory of Escape. They needed Caine to make that happen.

    I agree about "Any Way You Want It" as being the sweet spot. It's a radio friendly song with a hard riff and stellar guitar work. I just hate the tempo they typically play it live. Too frantic.
     
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    I loooooooove how the song actually ends live! The band at the local 4th of July gig rocked it. The recorded version where it just fades out at the end is dumb!
     
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    I think the guitar work and solo/outro on Stone In Love has to be up there in the top 10 of all time. Neal is a beast.
     
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    in the last week i saw the Journey cover band Voyage - unreal show. It was like a time warp. That Hugo guy is a Steve Perry clone if there ever was one. The guitarist was pretty much note-for-note on the Schon stuff. Tones were spot on. No LP Supreme though.
     
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    I couldn't agree more about that song. I feel that song is Journey at it's best. To me that is two great songs melted together. Superb transition and some of Neal's best work.
     
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    It seems like Neal played the Supreme for a relatively short time. It was visible in the "Anyway You Want It" video, also on the poster that came inside the live Captured album.

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    Before that he was often seen with a gold top, a Black Beauty Custom, and a black LP Standard, amongst others. During the Escape era he started playing some Japanese stuff and also had a black LP with a P-90 in the neck and a Floyd.

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    If we are talking about Neal and Gibson it’s also noteworthy that his signature model LP is probably one of the most unique ones out there. One of the first with a sculpted heel, and probably the only one with that feature and a trem at the same time. Plus the ebony board, mahog top, additional electronics, even different binding and a non-Gibson pickup.
     
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    Yes, BUT Escape also has Lay It Down on side 2 and that is some SERIOUSLY godlike vocal gymnastics, plus it's a rockin' tune. But I do still like Departure better.

     
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