Gibson Says You've Been Warned

Discussion in 'What's left to Talk About?' started by kirobhan, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. jwguitar

    jwguitar Well-Known Member

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    Didn’t they learn their lesson when they tried to go after Vintage Brand Guitars in the EU a couple of years ago...
     
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    Boutique luthiers and small guitar companies don't have enough cabbage to make a lawsuit profitable, but they can sure milk them for licensing fees from now until... forever.
     
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    What was I supposed to hear? That sounds like absolute crap!
     
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    This latest round is also leaving a very bad taste in my mouth and making me think about a dean just because.

    Speaking of corporate lawyers I just heard there was an outcome in the case where Delaware North stole the iconic historic names of the places in Yosemite valley.
    DNC runs the concessions a few years and then they figure somehow they can trademark names of places that have been there 100 years and then when they lose the contract extort the government to get the name back. Somehow the taxpayers had to pay those pricks 15 million just to keep using the names that were in use for 100 years.
     
  5. jwguitar

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    I’ve said this before somewhere. When Gibson deviates from what they do best (SG, LP, V, Explorer, es335 and their arch tops and acoustics), it seems that they make really awkward guitars. That Gibson Superstrat Jackson style guitar from the late 80s is a perfect example of this. I’ve never seen this problem with other guitar makers.
     
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    Gibson did hire a PR firm to handle this mess, according to info I read. I wonder if it's working? JC comes off as smug sounding as that video.
    Sounds like Specialized Bicycles approach.

    I must have misunderstood you. I thought that was happening now.
     
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  7. MichaelR

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    Bla, ok I've been warned, I really think they are hurting there brand but only time will tell. It does seem like instead of concentrating on making better guitars they are trying to make money with the brand through the courts system and intimidation.
     
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    The '19s have been been very well received and are selling well in this neck of the woods. I would say the current Gibson offering has been at least as well received as much as the "play authentic" video has been despised.
     
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    I saw a youtube video this weekend where the guy says this whole affair has 'jumped the shark' and I tend to agree.

    However I do think Gibson is committing PR suicide, by their silence. That only cements the idea that Gibson is just corporate manipulation and greed, vs. the recovery path they started in 2019: that Gibson is a guitar company for the guitarist.

    History says you either stand by what you said, or admit you were wrong, or clarify it. You either own it or peoples' imaginations will fill in the blanks.
     
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    If the PRS case is any precedent, they’re going to lose this fight with Dean. I appreciate Dean taking them on as a lot of smaller builders would have to cave immediately. When Gibson focuses on making good guitars again and not this patent trolling, I’ll support them.

    I’d love a Gibson that corrects the traditional design flaws but keeps the aesthetics. We’ll see.


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    I've always loved Gibson guitars. At the same time, I always thought they were too pricey for what you get. That's why I never bought one. I don't like that they're trying to crush Dean, but I do understand that this is business, nothing more, nothing less. KKR made a big financial investment in an Iconic brand, and they're doing what they feel is right to protect their investment. While it's not the approach I would have taken, it's what they decided to do. We should hear fairly soon how this all plays out. The circuit where they filed against Dean is known for very fast case resolution.

    Gibson seems to have stirred up the pot a lot with this move. At the end of the day, I have no dog in this fight, but I'd love to see a fair resolution that leaves both Dean and Gibson as ongoing businesses.
     
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    In that case, at least according to GIbson... you should buy a Dean.
     
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    I love my Dean!

    ... but, it's a copy of a PRS haha
     
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    Basically, make a PRS SC or something with some of the mos important features of 3200MCC.
     
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    I have wanted a Dean Cadillac Tigers Eye for years but never saw the price at a place I would jump. They no longer make them so......

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    too much neck dive on those caddies.
     
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    I always did want a Dean Cadillac... it would go nicely with my Soltero.
     
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    ^ I never liked the headstock or the razor thin necks that the originals had. Agree with the comment on neck-dive.
     

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