Giovanni '59s Question

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  1. backinit

    backinit Well-Known Member

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    I am looking for help from someone that has played or owns a set. Does the bridge pickup have a scooped mids like a seymour duncan '59?

    Is anyone still using any Giovanni pickups?
     
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    I've got the Giovanni GVH-1 set in an Agile AL-3100 and the GVH-2 set in an Epiphone Les Paul Custom. No plans to take either of those sets out of those guitars. Never tried the Giovanni '59, though @tobijohn may have.
     
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    I have the GVH-1 set in an AXL LP and like them fine.
    have not played the '59.
     

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  5. backinit

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    Although I didn't specify I am trying to avoid the scooped sound. I love a seymour duncan 59 in the neck.....I hate it in the bridge as I do not like a scooped sound they have (to me)1 iota. Hate it...loath it...lol
     
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    Yes, I've got a set in an AL-3100MC. They use Alnico 5 magnets. I haven't played it in a while so I can't really recall how they compare tonally to the GVH-1s (A5s) or GVH-2s (A3s) but the quality is there. As for scooped mids, my ears suck at picking up the nuances, I would trust whatever opinion @toomanycats has on something like that....
     
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    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    From the Artec catalog:

    "The GVH 59 is true vintage humbucker sound with smooth, bite and brilliance in voiced magic midrange sound. Our specified magnet method brings original vintage tonal implication. It brings definition with distinct midrange sound. We also applied perfect matched poles in the butyrate bobbins in pickup structure. For strong structural integrity, we use selected quality materials. We use American Wire Standard Gauge with detail coating options. Together with A.V.T, you will hear complete and articulated true vintage humbucker pickup sound." N: 7.4 B: 8.4

    http://www.artecsound.com/catalog/Pickups_GIOVANNI_2014.pdf
     
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    A Seymour Duncan JB for the bridge pickup will still have Alnico 5 magnets and a hot output with a mid range bump. This is what helped drive the preamp stage on a tube amp. There are also many clones, but you can find used JB's on eBay rather easy around $50. I have an AL2500 with a 59'/JB set. Another ting you can do is move to a 50's style wiring, so as you roll off the volume, the pickup is less muddy.
     
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    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    There are also the SD Designed HB-102s and Guitar Madness sells a clone set (IIRC, something with "Hot Rod" in the title). I've got the real thing in a couple of guitars as well as the previously mentioned ones and IMHO, you can get where you want to go with either of the latter two and some EQ. However, plenty of people out there would beg to differ with my opinion and as I also stated previously, I don't have the best ear for this sort of thing...
     
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    ONE OTHER NOTE:

    The leads on the Giovannis are extremely short (I assume Artec saved about $.02 per pickup by doing this). If you're thinking about splitting them and putting them in a guitar where the tone controls are the push/pulls for the split, you're going to most likely have to add extensions. The wiring channels on left-handed guitars are longer but I still think there's no way the leads will reach that far on a right-handed guitar either. As it is, the main ground wire for the bridge pickup had to be soldered to the neck volume pot as it wouldn't reach the bridge volume pot...
     
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    I went through this installing a set of GVH-1s in a Les Paul. You would think that you would need to trim the wiring, not add to it. I have a set of GVH-Lead aged zebra pickups in waiting that I can't wait to install knowing that I'll most likely need to extend the leads 1-1/2". On a separate note, I was surprised by the sound of the GHV-1s. They might not have been all that harmonically rich, but they didn't lack in sound quality.
     
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    Kind of funny that newer Seymour Duncan 59's (SH-1) are 'scouped.' I have one in the neck of a Strat that is from 1986 and it has really warm mids. I had a set from the early 90's that were pretty even.

    Hey - that is what a Tube Screamer is for!
     
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    I love the SD 59 neck... very warm.. matter of fact I prefer it over a jazz as I have a tough time keeping it from getting muddy with some gain.
     
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    Exactly how mine is, not scouped at all like a Jazz.
     
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    I've got the GVH-1's, GVH-2's. 59's, and single coil tele pickups. The GVH-1's were my particular favorite overall. The 59's have more break-up to them. They were all very affordable quality pickups. Not the best, not the worst, but surprisingly good value for the money. I paid between $25-30 a pickup, anf they are far superior to the stock Agile pickups. Kurt should switch to these. If he bought them in bulk from Artec, he'd be able to easily improve the Agile line without any significant increase in cost.
     
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    I picked up the last set of GVH - Rock zebra pickups. The neck pickup may be a bit hotter, but I wanted to make sure that the bridge pickup was robust enough.. the 59s will be another day.
     
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    This is a timely thread I want to change out the pups in my PS900 I don't want to pay SD prices. It seems like there are a lot of choices in lower priced pups these days to a point I don't have a clue what I want to buy/try.
     
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    Lot of good info here on the Giovanni, Guitarmadness, etc.
    the GM pick ups I have tried I like; Classic57 bridge, Alnico 5 '62 strat set, think 1 more but it escapes me ATM.

    NOw where did I put that Prevagen?
     
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    Anyone tried the Dragonfire's?
     
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