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  1. supersoldier71

    supersoldier71 Well-Known Member

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    Ordered from Sweetwater on Wednesday, they arrived yesterday and I finally made room in the music room for my brand new Roland TD-4K kit.

    It’s the very bottom of the Roland line, but having never played drums of any kind before, I figured, let’s not go crazy.

    I did buy a decent throne and some sticks.

    I went electric for two reasons: one noise. No one wants to hear me learn the drums. The second: I got everything in one kit. I didn’t have to concern myself with additional cymbals and hardware.

    Being the bottom of the range, it’s pretty limited, but it makes drum sounds. Fifteen onboard kits and it’s MIDI-capable, so I can use VST drums in a DAW if I want.

    So far, it’s really really hard to be on time and accurate, but it’s day zero, I can only get better.

    I figure I’ll rock them for a year or two. The kit seems sturdy enough to last. If I dig the drums, I’ll upgrade, give this kit to the grandkids. Even if I don’t dig drums all that much, my impromptu jam sessions for my musical friends just rounded out. I’ve had guitars, basses, an acoustic, a keyboard, mics and a PA. Now I’ve got the drums.

    Which is probably part of the reason why there’s always someone at my house.


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    Happy new drums. I am curious to know how you like it and your progress.
     
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    Congrats man, they look good to me. Bet you will do great with them. Most of all, have lots of fun with it!
     
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    Congrats! Have fun and definitely invest in a metronome if you haven’t already.
     
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    Nice going! A bottom of the line Roland is better than the top of the line of most other brands. Roland is the king of e-drums.
     
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    Built into the drum module. My timing is atrocious.

    When I deliberately work on timing, my experience has been that all the improvement comes between practice sessions. Contrasted to when I’m working on a guitar part and my hands figure it out while I have the instrument in hand.

    I’d planned on buying used, but the GC in town has three used kits, all $800 plus, and I didn’t have time to road trip an hour away to look at others.

    Plus, when I’m mostly ignorant, I like new with return policy.

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    This is the book my sons drum teacher started him with. Lots of different patterns.

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    supersoldier71 Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah. I’m going to need that or something like it.

    The built-in coach only does 4/4 time, but I need to get proficient in 3/4 and 6/8. And 5/4 if I want to play Take Five.

    Meanwhile, I’ll just focus on trying to keep the One. I really suck at that.


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    Don't be afraid to count out loud. It feels kind of derpy at first, but it really does help. After a while you can fade it away, but seriously, counting out loud is better than "thinking" it, especially in the beginning.

    And some of the greatest were not exactly metronomes, themselves. I was watching a Beato video where he put Bonham up against a metronome, and Bonham was all over the place. Beato, even being the sort of perfectionist that he is, said that he liked "imperfect" Bonham better than midi or gridded drums because that imperfection is what gives soul and grit to the songs (I'm paraphrasing).

    Most important thing: HAVE FUN!!
     
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    The module has built in backing tracks and those are easier to follow along with. Five or so minutes with the metronome, ten with the various backing tracks every day, and I should manage to be proficient fairly shortly.

    One pleasant side effect of learning one instrument: the time and effort involved with learning others doesn’t seem so intimidating.

    Unless it’s brass. That just looks like a lot of work.


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    Congrats!
    I have been interested in entry level drums and / or keys but just dont have the time.
     
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    we are pretty happy with this for a metronome:

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    It does everything we need it to do and plenty plenty more. He will be starting percussion in 6th grade next week, and I guess this is the metronome that most schools use, so I wanted to get him a bit of a head start.

    Now if I could just get him to practice......
     
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    Really digging the drums so far. So much so that I’m already planning my next kit!

    My oldest grandchild is six, October of next year. He’ll get my hand-me-down kit for his birthday, and Pop Pop gets an upgrade. Probably another Roland kit.

    Everybody wins.

    Oh, and he’s got three siblings and musical parents: somebody will play the drums.


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    You have a nice music room there.
     
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    Thank you.

    I’m about to start getting rid of some guitars and other stuff to de-clutter. Guitars, unused pedals, books: gotta go!





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    As my daughter transitions from Jr high to H. S. she is dropping band. It is what it is, but she was a percussion stand out that was probably going to transition to a kit. This was my our for getting a kit in the house. I will live vicariously through you.
     
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    I just got an instructional book in the mail today so that I can structure my learning.

    I’m eager to run these through my looper to make some drum tracks and see if I can develop a full arrangement that way. My computer is on its last legs, but when I replace that, I’ll be able to record into a DAW and do percussion live instead of programmed. Probably not the right word but you know what I mean.

    Right now, the plan is to keep these for a year or two, learn some stuff and maybe upgrade to a higher level Roland kit with more customization.

    This has 15 different kits, but WYSIWYG: you cannot modify the kits at all.

    Still, it makes drum sounds, which is about where I’m at right now.


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    Alright! As an old lifetime drummer I like to see this. You’ve got everything you need to get going. I’d check out YouTube too. As with guitars, there’s a wealth of info and lessons there. Over time you’ll want to experiment with sticks and and find out what works best for you; long ones, shorter ones, thick, thin, etc. Best of luck and stick with it.

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    Now THAT is a music room!


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    Thanks. Not real fancy, but I really like it.
     

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