I Just "creamed" A Little

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  1. toomanycats

    toomanycats Well-Known Member

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    As I get older many things about which I was formerly pretty certain, I now find myself in considerable doubt about.

    But on the flip side, there are some few certainties I have discovered and to which I cling. For example . . .

    * Most of the best music was made before I was born.

    * I like cats better than people.

    * Clapton is God.
     
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    Great job on this one. Sounds authentic. :thumbsup:
     
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    Yup nice Job!
     
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    Thanks man. I think Clapton is probably using some type of fuzz box on the leads, which I didn't use, though I did try to copy the licks as close as possible. I did use an SG EB-3 bass also, which Jack Bruce might have used on the track.
     
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    YW, it is my honest opinion and a well deserved kudos to you. The guitar tones sound very very close to me, and the singing was decent too.

    Have you ever covered Crossroads?
     
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    I know Cream's version of Crossroads, though I've never recorded it. My band has been talking about putting it on the set list so I do need to practice it. Recording it would be a a good workout.
     
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    Clapton was one of my first influences and yet I'm just now starting to learn some of his songs. I started learning crossroads just a couple days ago myself. Cream and Blind Faith were my main bands along with The Jimmy Hendrix experience.
     
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    There's something about Clapton's recorded solos that I find inevitable, though not boring. They're perfectly crafted, but also seem lively and spontaneous. There's a deep musical intelligence behind them. As for his live improvisations, like on "Crossroads," the man seems omniscient, like he can see the entire finished composition of the solo within the larger composition of the song itself. He builds it, takes you on a journey with amusing and surprising little side trips, then brings it to a spectacular end. Only the best musicians can improvise like that.
     
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    Dogs > cats > humans

    Other than that...awesome job!
     
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    If you love Clapton, you should listen to his early work with John Mayall. Many of his techniques , riffs and runs you can hear in early stages of development. This has also served as the basis (along with Keith Richards Open G technique) that defines my existence as a player.

    I recommend this:

    https://www.discogs.com/John-Mayall-Primal-Solos/release/2387591

    Songs 1-5 are Clapton and 6-8 are Mick Taylor (pre Stones ) another great early stage listen
     
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    Recognize this? :)

     
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    Steppin’ out!

    If you want to step back further, after you listen to the Beano album, dive into Freddie King. There was a whole lotta 1966 Clapton that came from Freddie.

    As for Mayall, check out Hard Road with Peter Green on guitar with John McVie and Aynsley Dunbar. Peter Green’s playing on that version of Someday After a While is simply masterful.
     
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    Excellent work!! Totally diggin it.

    Admittedly, as I get older, I see the sheer talent around players and their feel more than just throwing notes around.

    Even though I still feel like Ricky Bobby and just want to go fast, guys like Clapton and Page hare absolute monsters.
     
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    Well done!

    To me Clapton's Cream period is where he is on the very top of the game.
     
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    Getting jizzy with it! Way to go. There is still lots of good music being made but I know what you mean, the crap level makes it a very miserable slog.
    Was kinda hoping you had it as instrumental as I was just thinking I wanted to work on that song.
     
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    This is the version our band used to play. Elvin Bishop on guitar...

     
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    Funny you mention Freddie, as just yesterday I was working on "Going Down." I know it's from a 1971 blues-rock record produced by Leon Russell, and therefore wasn't one of the tunes that influenced Clapton and the other British "blues scholars" in the 60s. But it's still exemplary of Freddie's amazing licks and nasty tone. Nailing the way he turns those dissonant bends into a beautiful melody is so difficult. It's pure pentatonic genius. I don't think he even uses in a single flat 5th in the entire lead.

    I find Cream's version of this Albert King tune especially significant for the later development of hard rock and heavy metal. There's a heaviness to the riff, which when combined with the dark, semi-occult, astrological referencing lyrics, presages bands who were soon to follow on their heels, like Sabbath and Zep. But it grooves too! learning this tune is truly an education.
     
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    That tone came from a big ass Fender Quad Reverb or Dual Showman CRANKED and then hit hard with the humbuckers and his right hand technique. I have tried to duplicate it, but my hearing protection wasn’t good enough to keep my face from melting!
     
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    When trying to get the biting attack of Freddie's tone I found myself gravitating to plucking the strings with my right hand thumb and index finger. This seemed to give the proper snap to the notes. When I investigated Freddie's technique I discovered that he apparently used a plastic thumb pick and metal index finger pick.
     

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