I'm Dreaming Of A White Christmas: Harley Benton Big Tone Vintage White B-stock Inbound

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  1. toomanycats

    toomanycats Well-Known Member

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    I had the Harley Benton Big Tone in Vintage White in my cart at Thomann for about a week but kept putting off ordering it. You guys know the games we all play like that.

    Anyways, I went to look at it again about an hour ago and it was sold out! Not due back until February 2016. Aaaarghh! :eek:

    I quickly did a search for a B-stock and was relieved to find that there was just one. I put it in my cart, applied my 20 EUR credit, and quickly maneuvered myself through the checkout. For around $205 I've satisified my jazz box holiday hankering.

    I've never ordered a Benton B-stock before. The way I look at it, whether you order a B-stock or not, there's decent odds that you'll receive one anyways. At least this way I've got my deduction in advance and won't have to haggle with them after the fact. Kinda takes the pressure off. :)

    Expect a full review and so on when it arrives. In the meantime I'm going to practice some jazzy arrangements of Christmas standards.

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    Congrats! Keep us posted.
     
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    Dave-B Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Nice one. Some top tips for when your new baby arrives:
    • It has a stupid design flaw - the string break angle from the tension bar to the bridge is far too steep. You can see this in the picture above. The pins on my bridge actually collapsed within a day under the stress. Easy solution, reduce the break angle by unbolting the bigsby and shimming it up with some washers.
    • Apply violin rosin to the base of the floating bridge, to stop it sliding around. The bigsby is hopeless until you do this.
    • Be prepared to replace the plastic nut and distinctly average tuners.
    • Be prepared to upgrade the pickups unless you only like woolly jazz sounds.There's sufficient spare cable on the stock pups that you can splice new ones on without having to rewire through the f-holes.
    • For total satisfaction, remove clear scratchplate and store safely in the nearest landfill.
     
  5. Bubba Zanetti

    Bubba Zanetti Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Yes! Well done, can't wait for your trademark detailed and entertaining review!
     
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  6. Mickey

    Mickey Gandalf the Intonationer

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    Better solution, remove the incorrect Bigsby and replace it with one without a pressure bar.
    Pressure bar Bigsbys are for semi hollow and solid body guitars.
     
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    May your Big Tone arrive unscathed and ready to roll...
     
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    that's so cool its HOT

    brush up on Xmas songs & the Cult !!!





     
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    toomanycats Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the helpful advise.

    I've already been looking at GFS gold foils. What did you put in yours?

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    Bubba Zanetti Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Sorry to divert from BigTone talk, but I'm going to order a set of the Strat style gold foils to put in my hard tail SX Hawk. We'll see how it goes.
     
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    I just fitted a set of Hagstrom Custom-58s that I had lying around, wired in parallel for a brighter, lower output tone. Made a world of difference. Whatever you choose will be a good step up from the factory pups.
     
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    That is a gorgeous guitar. Make sure you post a lot of pics for us. Lots!
     
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    Nice looking guitar, just like Hbowner's. Get some Buddha'Trons from @Buddha Pickups . You'll be glad you did!
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    Love that Manassas track. A real masterpiece of an album too. Rarely see them mentioned these days.
     
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    The funny thing about break angle, like any other measure of physics, is that the issue ceases to exist past a certain degree. Floyds have an almost 90 degree break (as close as the make up of the string will allow) and most guitars from strats to teles to pauls simply can't compete with that comfort. However, since the string doesn't actually make a sharp edge on its bend, I understand it's not truly 90 degrees in practice but something falling short...
     
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    Oh yeah, I forget that he had one too.

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    Yeah, break angle is a non-issue on most guitars.

    The problem is that the BigTone's bridge isn't fixed in any way to the guitar. The steep break angle makes the bridge slide around as you play.

    Also, it's a very fragile bridge compared to a LP or tele - just a couple of threaded metal posts screwed into a thin strip of wood. The tension created by the break angle can bend the posts and shred the wood. The bridge is definitely the weak point on the BigTone.

    I forgot to mention - as well as shimming up the bigsby to reduce break angle, I also used CA glue to strengthen the posts where they screw into the little wooden bridge. The guitar has been playing fine now for 6 months like that.
     
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    you would think that Germans, with their engineering prowess, would have figured out they're using the wrong Bigsby. :(
     
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