Inexpensive Tuners Man.

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  1. Mikesr1963

    Mikesr1963 Well-Known Member

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    I've got a couple guitars with those covered inexpensive turners. They're are guitars I bought new but paid around $60 for so I'm not looking to upgrade with parts that cost as much at the guitar cost. The most recent my Epip LP Jr. the spent 4 years in the box until I got it. The lube I dug off the turners was brown, hard, and flaky. Pulled the covers took them apart and clean the goop off. Lubed the metal to metal parts that rub as I put them back together with Superlube and they operate much better. The other set I did this to are on my beater acoustic I've been playing decades. I leave the covers off because I like the look better.

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    I fixed the cheap open gear tuners like these on a couple of my guitars by adding a very thin washer like a shim to increase preload on the shaft slightly. Having the shaft held tighter to the baseplate by the gear works wonders.

    I think they are just very inconsistent in machining, so anything that can take up for the sloppy tolerances will result in better function.

    The actual design if implemented with stricker care works well enough.

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    NoStratsPlease Well-Known Member

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    There's some good info here, but I'm kinda bummed. When I read the thread title I expected a new superhero made out of inexpensive tuners or something....
     
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    I'll have to try that.
     
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    First thing I do when modding low price guitars is toss the tuners. The pickups can sometimes be salvaged or made useful. The tuners just go in the bin. You can always find a set on reverb that are 20x better and last a few lifetimes for a pretty small investment.
     
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    I tend to just put Wilkinson locking tuners on everything that doesn’t already come with Grovers.
    They are good, and -cheap-!
     
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    +1 on the Wilky tuners, there are better tuners, but they are a nice step up and at a budget price. I really don't consider them a true locking tuner, but I like the option of the to different string mount heights.
     
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    The key: Whatever is easiest to change and makes you happiest. Those are THE BEST tuners.
     
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    Those tuners are dreadful.
    I never thought to take the covers off or shim the gear.
    Worth a try I suppose.
     
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    +1000 on Wilkinson tuners and hardware in general... I've been using their tuners exclusively for years (the 'EZ Locks' are all the locking tuner I need), and their vintage-style bass tuners are the bomb! Just as good as MIA Fender, IMHO. But I typically get their Kluson style tuners (when I trust the peg-hole spacing, that is).

    I'm interested in trying their pickups.

    @Mikesr1963, interesting rehab... I usually ditch those plastic-back tuners without even thinking, but I also like making the most out of what's available. I just always thought those tuners were beyond hope. They always feel like friction pegs to me... Or like they're devouring themselves every time I turn them.
     
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    Good timing on this thread as I'm tuner shopping right now. For the Wilkinson EZ Locks - is changing strings difficult?
     
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    dabbler Well-Known Member Supporting Member+ Gold Supporting Member

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    I havea couple pair of Wilkie EZLOKS, but the tuners that are easiest to change and make me happiest are Planet Waves auto-trims!
     
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    Mickey Gandalf the Intonationer

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    Wilk EZ-LOK's are my fav replacement also, both good & cheap.
     
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    How do you exactly shop for these, that is, which dimensions, beyond mounting hole, is critical for fit?
     
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    FWIW - I've used these twice now without issue. Not the highest quality but they work just fine. I like the vintage style buttons.

     
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    Doesn't appear my amazon link is working. if you go to the site and search:

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    Mickey Gandalf the Intonationer

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    Usually, I just google EZ-LOk
    :)
     
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    I got that part.
    Then what?
    Shaft size, mounting hole patterns, all that other sh888T
     
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    Mickey Gandalf the Intonationer

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    I just buy what looks right. :)
    Thus far they have always fit.
     
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    I think the issue with many (most?) locking tuners is one can't tell: does the shaft fit the hole. Do I need to add new holes? Will existing holes be left exposed? Those questions.
     

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