NGD Ivy Neck Thru Prs Copy (*fixed Pictures*)

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  1. mighty_duck

    mighty_duck Well-Known Member

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    The IYV neck thru PRS copy came in. As always with IVY, it's a mixed bag. I previously briefly owned a green IVY PRS, but it went back. This one is worlds better.

    Good:
    Top is beautiful. From some angles the flame is very pronounced, from others there are vertical flames. Pretty cool. Burst is done very well. Looks like a thick maple cap on the wings, seen well from the sides and the lower cutaway. The pictures don't do it justice - need to get better ones tomorrow.
    Weight is good, at 8.4 on my bathroom scale.
    I like the stock pickups, good articulation without being harsh. Tuners are marked Grover, and bridge is marked Wilkinson. Nice big sustain block it. Tuners are smooth, and hold tune fairly well. It took me a little to figure out, but there is a screw under the bridge which helps lock the tremolo arm in place. Tuning stability is pretty good, and you have a lot of control there.

    Neck is awesome! A bit thinner than an Agile, C shape. Volute. High fret access is the best I've ever played - the combination of deep double cut and smooth recessed heel are fantastic.
    Fret edges are smooth.
    Action was high out of the box, but tightening the truss rod has brought it down to acceptable levels. It still has a bit to go once I deal with the nut.
    Frets are level.
    Inlays are MOPs.

    Bad:
    Fretboard is a hot mess.
    The good inlays have a ton of filler around them. The worse ones are broken, one came completely off.
    Some filing marks, the edge of the fretboard has noticeable wood filler in another place. Headstock has filler near TR cover.
    Some frets are rough, and give a scratchy feeling when bending. Need to smooth them out.
    Nut is cut too deeply, and snags some strings. Needs a new nut.

    Hmm:
    Unlike the pictures, they did not tape off the edge of the body to make faux binding.
    Electronics are typical - mini pots and box switch. Volume has good sweep, tone not so much.
    Fretboard wood is nothing to write home about - not much character. Maybe ebonize it?
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    Now comes the dilemma. I love playing it, and the fretboard and finish issues, while being bummers, aren't a deal killer for me. It will be tougher to sell it in the future though.
    I could ask for a discount based on the issues, or maybe order another and hope for better luck. Anyone have experience with Amazon customer service on these kinds of issues?
    Based on my bad experience with the previous Ivy PRS copy, I wouldn't want to send it back (for fear that the next one won't have this one's great playability).

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  2. mighty_duck

    mighty_duck Well-Known Member

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    Bumperusky.
     
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    Wow that looks like an early 80's upscale Ibanez! HNGD!
     
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    Mickey Gandalf the Intonationer

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    What google account do we need to sign into in order to see all the pictures (not just the first one?)
     
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    I guess you can see them if you put on your Google glasses..

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    OK. I have to ask, is it IVY or IYV ?
    My glasses aren't the best but Im pretty sure that headstock read I-Y-V, but search amazon and not much comes up, search IVY and a bunch comes up, including one that looks a LOT like that one!

    I don't recall the prices bt theres a nice blue for $150 if the natural isn't filling your sails.

    but for the $ I saw, youre probably not going to get much back. MAYBE if yu conmtact the seller and exlkain that you haven't YET left your review, it depends on how this all works out......

    just a thought
     
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    LessPawl Well-Known Member Supporting Member+ Gold Supporting Member

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    Holy BLING guitar, that thing looks really sharp.
     
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    Looks really sharp, the top is gorgeous. Must have had some magic beans planted under that neck pickup.
     
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  9. mighty_duck

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    Fixed the pictures, so they should be visible now.
     
  10. mighty_duck

    mighty_duck Well-Known Member

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    The brand is IYV, but Amazon lists it as Ivy. I usually call it Ivy when, since it rolls off the tongue better :)

    Blue one is a bolt on, (porbably) 25.5" , Schecter inspired guitar, so a different animal. It does look good though!

    These are sold directly from Amazon, and their customer service has always been top notch with me (full disclosure, I've been a customer for over 18 years, a prime member for many years, and buy a lot from them).
    With similar issues with past Ivy's, they quickly offered a 10% discount. I'm debating whether to target that, or to roll the dice on another one of these hoping to get one with fewer issues.
     
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    Best $1000 you can spend. Think of all the guitar pics you are missing!
     
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    the company is vietnamese, "inyen vina", i guess they shorten it to "iyv" but people misread it as "ivy" so they list it as such? dunno.
     
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    it does look great. I could rock that all day long.

    The inlay isn't my cup of tea, and considering how intricate it is on such a inexpensive import, I doubt you'll find much better even with a return, other than possibly not missing any!
     
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    Or to regurgitate your joke from the other thread, the order of the letters is perfect with almost no defectiveness.
     
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    Decided to order another one, and see if I have better luck with it.
     
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    You should look for one without intricate inlays because you are very likely not going to get one that has them well done at that price. A new nut and some fretwork should be expected as well.
     
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    I don't mind that style of inlay on a Jem, but it's a little over the top on that guitar. And maybe sticking to dots would have been a good idea if they can't get it right.
     
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    mighty_duck Well-Known Member

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    The inlays are certainly not my favorite, but I can live with them for the other things I'm getting here.
    Dots, blocks, traps, or no inlays would have been much much better, cheaper, and easier to implement.
     
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    So the second one came in from Amazon, and boy am I glad I got it.
    Inlays are by no means perfect, but are much better than the first one. Setup was almost perfect out of the box. Frets were better dressed, and fret level is great (after adjusting the action on the first one, I found a high fret). I was able to get really nice action with nothing but adjusting the TR and bridge height. Nut is cut better (but I'll still probably replace it with a TUSQ).
    Like the first, there are a smattering of tiny cosmetic imperfections, but nothing noticeable from a foot away, and even then only if you're going it over it with a fine tooth comb. Life's too short for that :)

    This one is definitely a keeper, and is a joy to play or just look at.
     
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    That's a really nice looking guitar. It looks like that is a legit piece of flame maple on top as you can see figuring on the side of the maple cap. If nothing else that is a seriously good platform for installing better electronics and getting a refret. The only thing I can do without is the tree of life on the neck. It looks as that can be fixed with filler or a new inlay as well.
     
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