NGD #metoo, I Got Me A Liquid

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  1. Powertrip240

    Powertrip240 Well-Known Member

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    I traded a Squier strat for this guy today.

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    I love that it has the Kluson style vintage tuners. They feel really smooth.


    Here's the only flaw I've found in the finish.
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    The guy I got it from got it in trade as well, so he couldn't tell me anything about it. I played with it long enough to see that it was in good condition, and that everything worked. Once I got it home, I noticed it's in need of a set-up. The intonation is off, the truss rod needs a little tweaking, it's got a little fret buzz, and the fretboard looks dry as the Sahara. All things that I can easily fix. More pics and details to follow with progress.
     
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    Powertrip240 Well-Known Member

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    I removed the strings so I could oil the fretboard. It was dirty as hell! Mostly in the tweedle tweedle area, 15th fret and above.

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    Wish the lefties came in black.
     
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    Have those fret ends been dressed since the guitar was delivered from Rondo? They look pretty darn spiffy.
     
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    If I had to guess, I'd say no. They frets do need a wee bit of touching up, on top. The ends are perfect. I would think if the fret ends had been worked on, post Rondo, the same guy would have crowned and polished them as well. It doesn't look like that's happened....yet.
     
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    This guitar has a push-pull pot in the volume position. From playing with it, it seems like it's a mid-cut of some sort. It works in all 5 positions of the selector switch. It works, but it's not something I'll be using. Pretty much worthless. So I popped the hood to see what's going on underneath. Whoever installed this mod had a very different method of soldering.

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    I have to assume it didn't come from Rondo with wiring like this. I know QC can be hit or miss, but c'mon, man!!

    So I'm just going to un-do and re-do the whole thing. Now this is my first time rewiring P90's. I know single coils generally use 250k pots, and buckers use 500k pots. What about P90's? This one currently has a 500k tone pot, and I don't know what the volume pot is.
     
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    I think the consensus is 500K pots and that's what all my P90 guitars have come with...
     
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    Came in for something to do, stayed for the ace photos & write-up. You really need to post more NGD threads!

    Oh and congrats on a great-looking guitar and cool deal. I've never been a huge fan of these, but then I left quirky guitar shapes to the younger me (y)

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    Braided wires on those pickups...
     
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    Thanks TJ. That's what I figured, but i thought I better ask.
     
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    I'll do as many NGD threads as you'd like. Just send me some guitars!! And you know, when I first saw the Liquid, I thought "WTF is that ugly thing? Who the hell would pay money for that?" But the more I looked, and the more I read about it, the damn thing grew on me. Who knew? Now I own one.
     
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    Yep, that's where I was. I get the love for them though, it's not like I look at them and laugh. Having said that, the more I look at yours, the more I think I'd possibly own one and just Krylon the scratchplate black...
     
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    Funny you mention that. I figured since I'm going to rewire this thing, I might as well pull the pickups out and shield the routs with copper tape. So as I proceeded to remove the pickups, look at what I found.

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    The pickups are not stock. They're GFS. So after taking a quick look at the GFS site, I see they only sell one model of pickups that look like these.
    GFS Alnico Vintage Soapbar Pickup, Black

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    So I pulled the other 2, and yes, they match. I ohm'd them out, and they come in at 8.6k neck, 8.1k middle and 8.7k bridge.

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    Yeah, I haven't decided yet if this one is going to live it's life as a black guitar, or if I'm going to do another refinishing project. The shape of the body really lends itself to a '57 Chevy type of style...
     
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    HNGD and welcome to the club!

    If you have enough pickup lead, might I suggest swapping the neck and the middle pup? Yes - I might!

    It will sound more balanced with the lighter wound pup in the neck positon.
     
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    Yes, I like that suggestion very much! And as far as I can tell right now, there should be enough lead to do so. Thanks for the tip!
     
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    isn't one rwrp tho?
     
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    BTW: that dark stuff on your paper towel - that is the stain they used to make the fret board darker. Mine had the same thing and ended up lighter after a few oilings.
     
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    Might be - good point.
     
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    Aha!! Good call. I just double checked on the GFS site:

    These are calibrated pickups- the Bridge pickup is 8.8K, Neck 8.2K- polepieces set to proportional spacing - perfect for all gibsonĀ® spaced instruments These come retail boxed, with all mounting hardware, and wiring instructions. This is the Reverse Wound (For Noise Canceling) neck position pickup.

    So GFS sells 2 different Soapbars in this style. an 8.8 bridge, and an 8.2 neck. Judging by the numbers I got, I have two bridge pups and one neck pup. According to GFS, the neck (the 8.2-8.1) is RWRP. So would it be safe to assume that the lower resistance pup (the RWRP unit) needs to remain in the middle position?
     

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