Old Cameras

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  1. Spike

    Spike Well-Known Member

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    We’re getting ready to move and I found this bag of old unloved cameras.

    Before I take the time to list these on eBay, does anyone know if there is a market for this stuff anymore with the great quality cameras on the newer smart phones?
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    Some hipsters may want the Mavica?
    The AE-1 for a local photo student?

    Salvage CF cards?
    They have become expensive, used, and some older quality DSLRs need them.

    What's the one below the HP, center?

    BTW, I just learned that many old flash units have high trigger voltages, frying up your modern camera.

    Amazing how quickly modern consumer stuff ages, and piles up, with no salvage path.
     
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    The AE-1 is worth something.
     
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    The Canon might be worth keeping if you're planning on shooting film again. B+W emulsions are available and Kodak is planning on re-releasing Ektachrome and possibly Kodachrome in the not too distant future.
     
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    The AE_1 with flash is worth keeping /gifting . Check the seals and shutter times o it wouldn't be suprized if it need maintenance work. The digicams not so much though the cards might be worth something probably not much. Digital is highly disposable with the planned obsolescence.
     
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    My wife has been on the professional side of photography for about 25 years and she has a pretty decent collection of old cameras. The Canon AE-1 and flash still have a market, they are cool, but even that market is getting smaller since 35 mm is pretty much gone. Don't know about the rest.
     
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    Vaguely in context... just ran into this, so I quote:

    "... the digital crap that turned photographers into bums and made bums into "photographers"

    This guy really lets you know how he really feels!
     
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    Never understood the digital hate thing. I'm one who enjoyed shooting film and didn't get the same satisfaction from digital. That being said ,neither is superior as far as end results just different processes . If I were a pro now I'd be strictly digital unless a client wanted film and would pay for the expenses involved.
     
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    I think the (unknown) person I quoted resents the digital stuff in the sense that as it displaced or otherwise killed his/her sources of vital parts sources, expert repair services, etc. This was on a large-format forum dedicated to Graflex cameras, with a generally senior crowd, many links in postings are dark..

    Ahem.. I too own a Graflex 4 x5 as of this week... well almost: seller left it with me for eval., and does not respond to my asking when he wants his money. That's a new one!
     
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    Just sold my AE1. Had new foam and seals put in 5 or more years ago. Chances are if it's not been overhauled it will need it to function.
     
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    Well on a LF forum I kind of understand the disdain. Digital at this time cannot capture the detail a LF camera can with film even 4x5 can't come anywhere near 8x10. You priced sheet film and processing costs for the Graphlex? I wanted to try large format just couldn't justify the costs. Medium format was killing me at a dollar a shot without printing.But the images were stunning.
     
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    Different formats produce different working methods. Large formats usually require you to get the shot completely set up before you expend film. Advertising photographers needed to have a detail eye (and a few polaroids) before running a three-or-four sheet bracket. Processing the film (for me) usually required some experience with the film and the processing, and I usually asked all four sheets to be run plus an eighth or a quarter (processing time in first developer) because I knew what the characteristics would be. Color temperature was critical, lighting was carefully placed. The results were precise, because working the images over after that was extremely expensive.

    Medium format for things like weddings usually produced 120-200 shots, most carefully considered and composed (though there were a lot of journalistic moments along the way). Digital users routinely shoot 1500-2000 shots at a wedding now.

    Processing film was usually a one-day affair (we had ours done in a few hours) for Ektachrome and a day or two for proof prints from neg film. For most digital photographers who send their files to the P-pines and other outsourced processing, getting that many shots back can take a week and this is for a basic color and density adjustment. Digital photographers, for better or worse, have become the labs. That, and the number of files they shoot, have significantly increased their personal workload, while the perceived value of photography has declined in that hazy "semi-pro" workplace.

    iPhones have outstanding cameras, and the amount of internal processing that takes place is astounding, and they produce great looking shots. Unfortunately, the brain/eye behind the camera is a different story, and folks have become remarkably tolerant of badly composed and blurry garbage. While there's an interesting immediacy (and guests at weddings mostly all take the same shots) in both the photography and the ability to have it up on social media within a minute or two, quality of both the professional's results and those of the guests has actually suffered. Worse, too many couples ten years later (digital has been around for wedding professionals since 2005 or so) have no idea where their wedding photographs might be. In an effort to save money, some have accepted DVDs or digital files only, and the DVDs are physically degrading while the digital files are often lost to old computers that have been sent to the electronic junkpile.
     
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    That’s a battery charger for the floppy drive camera.
     
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    It’s been on the shelf for many years so I’m sure if there replacement parts, they would need replacing by now.
     
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    Still hang onto my FM-1 and ME Super
    Old schoolers know those numbers.
    Haven't run a roll through for years
    I wonder if old SLR cameras should be lubed or something
     
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    I have recently learned that light seals replacement is easy DIY, in most cases.

    Light metering and shutter speeds may have drifted off.
    Storage conditions may have allowed natural fungus to grow inside lens elements.
    Leaking batteries?

    About wedding pictures: I watched photos work recently, and it just crazy work, then I asked about the process to get to finals... Absurd IMO.
    If I was to have a function like this, I would rather have journalistic relaxed than sweatshop work.
     
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    I always have the wrong setting on my point 'n shoot because I can't see the tiny little icons. Every time the opportunity arises to snap a few pics I break my promise to leave it on the dummy setting and eff up the effort.
     
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    Same here.

    I keep eyeing the sexy and expensive Sony A mirrorless series at BestBuy. Last time I played with one, I was impressed by the live viewfinder's display of the photo's settings... crisp, pleasant, effortless.

    Other: Yesterday, late into an estate sale, a good tripod and excellent monopod were still sitting on the shelf, no takers.
    That shows you how much the general public is thinking about picture-taking. Guess who picked them up both for a grand total of five bucks?
     
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    This is nothing even remotely new with the general public. The pictures people took on their old 110 and gasp! Disk cameras were generally shit as well, and Polaroids were mostly pure garbage. But people loved them.
     
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    Without digital cameras there would be no online guitar porn. Or any other for that matter.
     

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