Roller Tom Bridge On A Non-trem Guitar???

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  1. Powertrip240

    Powertrip240 Well-Known Member

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    Educate me please. I see a lot of people using a roller Tune O Matic bridge on Les Paul and SG type guitars. Guitars without tremolo systems. What for? What's the advantage? I can see if you have a Bigsby, but I don't see the reasoning for non-trem guitars. I would think the smaller the contact point with the string, the better. So in that case, a standard TOM bridge would create less contact with the string, right?

    I need to replace the TOM on my latest purchase (Jay Turser LP copy), so I'm just wondering if it's worth getting a roller bridge.
     
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    I like the Wilkinson roller bridge 'cuz it is so comfy for palm muting.
     
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    Ive got a Schaller one on my Heritage.

    It is adjustable for string spacing which is cool. 92d72a0379df354d9fe658e0da2a08ac.jpg

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    I have Wilkinson roller bridges on a couple of non-trem guitars. They are very comfortable, and if you have any problem breaking strings at the bridge, they pretty much eliminate that. Also, the Wilkinsons have a lot more saddle travel, if you have trouble with intonation. No proof positive, but if anything, I think they sound better than the stock bridges.
     
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    Adding a roller bridge on a non tremolo is personal preference. I have 2 wilky style roller bridges on LP. I put them on because the radius of the bridge seemed to match up well, the bridges have a ton of adjustment range and have locking set screws that hold the bridge on the studs. I do not care for the non traditional looks of the wilky roller bridges, but they just work.
     
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    If it ain't broke...

    Fiddle with it til it is, then fix it.
     
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    I just grabbed this yesterday. Seller put a roller bridge on. Felt it was easier to tune and snapped less strings...

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    For left-handers, if a bridge needs to be replaced, the roller type are time savers because the saddles do not have to be rearranged to match the notches to the string gauge (although you can flip the bridge on imports so the adjustment screws are facing the stop bar). It's not so bad with the style that uses the wire retainer but it's an incredible pain trying to get e-clips off and then back on again. The additional saddle travel for intonation that @stormin1155 mentioned above has saved me a lot of aggravation as well...
     
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    One more advantage of the Wilkinson roller bridge, other than more travel for intonation than other bridges and has screws to lock it in place .But each roller has its own hold down screw and a flat base , so with a few shims one could customize the string radius .
     
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    OK, I'm sold. I'll give it a try. Thanks guys.
     
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    It made my cheapo Epiphone Spec II feel like a thousand dollar guitar to me! I'm exaggerating of course...

    For me, it made it easier to tune and intonate. It also makes the strings feel softer. It makes my 10's strings set feel like 9's. I love 'em. Got mine from GFS.

     
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    The locking roller bridge go for $9 on amazon now. locking, higher mass, dose not falloff when changing strings, more adjustable.
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    They're all over eBay but that's about as cheap as I've seen one. For some reason, if you use the AGF link option, Amazon links won't show up so here it is raw, just cut and paste into your browser:

    amazon.com/Kmise-A1644-Locking-matic-Replacement/dp/B0092LWHI6/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1537110289&sr=1-2&keywords=locking+roller+bridge:

    There are others but be sure the anchors are the right diameter...
     
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    intriguing... anybody else have this experience (the perception using a roller bridge of string softness)? are those studs the same size as most imports so if i didn't want to pull those it'd just be a matter of dropping the bridge in? i don't know shit about bridges and i know less about t.o.m. type bridges than the rest.

    they're so cheap i might grab one just to keep in the spare parts box.
     
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    The post studs for the one in the link above are the same metric type as almost all TOM anchors on imports other than the high end MIJ Edwards/Greco/Burny/Tokai/Epi Elitist/etc models (which use the smaller diameter Gibson anchors if the posts aren't the thumbwheel type that are screwed directly into the top). Just unscrew the stock posts and screw in the ones from the roller bridge...
     
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    @voodoorat, here's an example of a roller bridge that you do not want for a typical import guitar. Notice the smaller diameter of the bridge anchors:

    amazon.com/Musiclily-Roller-Locking-Tunematic-Electric/dp/B01MRHPXV5/ref=sr_1_19?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1537110447&sr=1-19&keywords=locking+roller+bridge
     
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    I considered those, but I gathered they're difficult to intonate as you have to loosen and tighten screws to make those saddles move forward/backward.

    I have another guitar with the regular bridge to compare with. It is not so bad, but I like the roller better.
     
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    Mickey Gandalf the Intonationer

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    I believe Amazon links generally have too many characters for the forum software to accept.
    Unless you use the [ u r l = ] & [ / u r l ] see above. :)
     
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    Alright, I just ordered a black roller bridge, black tuners, new knobs, a new toggle switch, and some other little things, all in black.
     
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