Speaking Of Automobiles... 1895

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  1. Poodlesrule

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    To follow up on the recent auto-related postings (Mustangs, etc.):

    1895 Paris-Bordeaux-Paris race (that's around 700 miles)

    47 entries:

    26 gasoline cars
    10 steam cars
    2 electric cars
    1 steam quadcycle
    5 gasoline bicycles
    1 steam bicycle
    1 steam tricycle
    1 gasoline tricycle

    (I transcribed the above from scan a newspaper article of the day, available online)

    There is a Wikipedia page about the race.

    André Michelin did not finish... first car to race with pneumatic tires!
    3000 lbs curb weight. Huh?

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    A shit ton of steel and cast iron.
     
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    The story about the race to cross the country by automobile is interesting. Check it out sometime.
     

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    Push the button, Max!
     
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    That came up as popular a couple (?) of years ago, don't remember why, maybe an anniversay.

    How about the 1907 Peking (now Beijing) to Paris?

    I am sure a lot was learned from these exotic early endurance races.

    Similarly, many common features of nowadays cars were first trialed on the 24 Hours of Le Mans race cars (ligthing, brakes, etc)
     
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    I LOVED THAT MOVIE!
     
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    Steam bicycle?
     
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    talk about a ball burner!
     
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    Maybe not:

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    Oh look... picture No. 2 ^^, bike in the back has what looks like a radial engine on rear wheel.

    Now I really want to find out!
     
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    Could be a rotary as well. Early Gnome rotary prototype?
     
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    Hmm.. tell me more - not that many people know the Gnome name!
    Early aviation?

    There is a wealth of inventive designs from the era that deserve more attention, as some have come back as modern versions.
     
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    They were huge in early WWI aviation (Sopwith Camel amongst others) but started out with early auto engines. It turns out they did not have a multi-cylinder rotary engine until well after 1895 so it wasn’t a gnome.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome_et_Rhône

    The early rotary engines had cylinders that spun around the axis, as opposed to similar look radial engines where the cylinders stay stationary and just the crank spins. Gnome’s were more “advanced” but there were many others so I still think it is likely that that bike had an early rotary engine. Look at how each cylinder head seems to connect to the rim. They must have spun with the rear wheel.
     
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    FOUND IT!!!

    A bike with a five cylinder rotary engine made by Félix Millet raced in the 1895 Paris-Bordeaux-Paris race. That has to be it.
     
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    Great find, thank you!!

    It was a gasoline machine.
     

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