The Elusive Firefly

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  1. adad

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    I have yet to ever see one of these B listings, sold in minutes I assume.

    Edit; i see them...for now. $86
     
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    Probably returns. Have to wonder why they were returned. Probably worth paying full price for peace of mind.
     
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    Plenty of documentation as to why they got returned.

    I wouldn't pay full pop for the stuff I was seeing. Even so, at full price they were a bargain.
     
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    where did you get the parts? i didnt see the post recommending anything.
     
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    Maybe you 338 owners have seen this already, but I noticed what appear to be hardshell cases designed exclusively for the 338 on Amazon. 02fe0b9e42706b196c6950a3aaf2a866.jpg 095eaec3be75066301f06a93e16eb6ed.jpg 05ae5a81661ad9ec58f898c18ad1bd67.jpg
     
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    i should get one i guess because i do like my 338 and take it with me sometimes... but i already have sooo many cases taking up space, i have a crappy cheap acoustic gig bag it fits in, and i have a weird mental block to spending 1/2 as much on a case as i did on the guitar..

    psa: the cases are/were also listed on ebay.
     
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    @voodoorat if the guitars are in the cases don't they take up just a few extra square inches? but if the gig bag works for you, you're good already. The cheap factor I understand as I'm choking on Rondo wanting $40 to ship the case for the sjm liquid. I understand it's oversized but double what an AL or case for an AL?
     
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    I've had my lefty red Firefly for about 6 months now, and it's one of my faves.
    Out of the box (Amazon, $139) with new strings and setup, it played well but with a few issues.
    The pickups were very microphonic, the tuners were loosey-goosey, the guitar was neck heavy and the nut was cut wonky.
    On to the mods...
    I had a set of pickups that originally came in my AL3200 and installed them along with two push-pull coil split volume pots and chrome pickup rings.
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    Made a huge difference... coil splitting introduces a bunch of new tones and the new pickups are not microphonic.
    Pickup problem solved.
    BTW, working on the controls through the F hole is NOT FUN and I think I invented some new curse words in the process:mad:

    I was going to replace the tuners with some Grovers from the parts bin but didn't want to drill new screw mounting holes.
    Instead, I dismantled the tuners and used a brass wheel on the gears to take off the burrs and clean up the gear edges.
    I reassembled them with some gear grease and proper torquing, and they work much better.
    They were pretty bad, and cleaning them up made a big difference in tuning ability and stability.
    I also replaced the tuner buttons (metal=heavy) with plastic mother-of toilet seat buttons (plastic=light)
    Made a noticeable improvement in balance when strapped in.

    At first I thought the nut was plastic, but after examination mine turned out to be bone (from the factory).
    I installed a compensated brass nut and a roller bridge from the parts bin, but the originals could have been tweaked to work fine.
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    I have about 18 guitars and basses, but only keep six in rotation in "the mancave".
    The Firefly always seems to be part of that six... I guess that says something...

    The only future mods planned are a nicer truss rod cover and a quick fret job (from the factory they're pretty good, but I'm OCD).
     
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    @Fat Jack i don't store any of my guitars in cases, they're all out either on stands (the cheaper ones mostly) or on the wall (the less cheap ones mostly). if i keep a guitar in a case it stays there and i never play it, so the only time they're cased is either when i've put them in cold storage for some reason or when they're actively going somewhere; so basically i've got all the cases stashed downstairs but they take up a lot of space. it means technically i don't need as many cases since i could use the same one for several guitars (unless i'm actually taking multiple guitars of the same shape with me somewhere). that's the theory anyway.
     
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    Wow, I've never heard of dismantling tuners. Good for you. I replaced mine with Gyker locking tuners. Dropped right in. The originals actually rattle when you shake them. Also replaced the bridge with Gotoh Tune-o-matic. May replace the pick-ups and wiring harness with something from GFS at some point. I had to do some fret leveling and polishing too. Also filed my nut slots and may have more work there. Problem is I don't have proper nut files, so used a thin hacksaw blade. I just can't pull the trigger on $80 for files. It's playing pretty good at this point, but I don't think the nut slots are smooth and flat. More like "v" shaped which probably isn't good.

    So what is a "compensated" nut? And is brass better? How did you get the old nut out and install the new one?
     
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    If you're feeling cheap like me you can use a clipping of a wound string or a little piece of folded sandpaper (optionally wrapped around a string clipping), just go slow do you don't overdo it.


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    Somebody please warm me when the purple flame ones are back.
     
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    If I would have gotten a 338 with as many problems as some of you it would have been returned. Mine was flawless (not to brag or anything, just damn lucky). I changed the strings and tuned it - that’s it. Pickups are not microphonic. It’s a cool little guitar but I don’t really play it. I’ve been playing my Cozart Explorer - absolutely love that guitar which was $220 including gigantic tweed explorer case.
     
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    You and me both!
     
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    My pickups are not microphonic either, I may just do it for the experience of learning how and the fun of it. My tuners did not "need" replaced per se either, I just did it to make it a better guitar.

    All it really needed was a bridge replacement, spot fret leveling, and a set-up which I learned to do all from YouTube videos. I am tinkering with the nut height too, but mostly for experiment because my notes were excessively sharp at the 1st fret, and it has mad a positive difference. Also, I actually inntonated to the 3rd fret instead of the 12th per a YT tutorial and that's turned out well also. I gained good intonation where I play open chords without forfeiting much at all at the 12th fret. Interesting.

    It turns out I love working on little guitar projects, especially with so much help available on this forum and YouTube. And with a $140 guitar, I'm basically not afraid to try anything. If I screw up the nut, I'll just replace it.

    That being said, I will probably not purchase another Firefly in a different style. I am just getting back into guitar after 25 years away, so this has been a fun opportunity to purchase one cheap and learn how to play again while doing some mods on an inexpensive guitar of pretty decent build quality.

    I just noticed by the way there are some Tele style thin lines (FFTH) available today on Amazon, but I will pass. I was going to go to Harley Benton route for a Tele, but I think I'm going to grab a "Slick" Tele from GFS when they're back in stock even though I'm not a big "relic" fan and the headstock sucks. They are $90 more ($229) than FFTH but it seems like all the hardware and electronics including pickups are far better quality, so it shouldn't need any mods or upgrades. Seems like a lot of people change out the Roswell pickups on the HB.
     
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    There are FF Tele's back up on Amazon too in several colors. Nothing new tho.
     

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