Thinking About Having A Firebird Body Made

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  1. Mossman

    Mossman Well-Known Member

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    Found a seller on ebay that makes various custom bodies. You can have them routed for whatever pickups, bridge, etc you want. Fits a Strat neck.

    [edit: I just noticed the neck pocket in the photo, and that looks like a Tele pocket. Looking back at the listing, it doesn't actually state what kind of neck it fits other than it's standard Fender 2-3/16"]

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    The listing says it's 'European Linden', which I think is a fancy way of saying 'Basswood'. I sent a message to the seller asking if he had any other wood types (I think Ash would be very cool!). I'm thinking I might have it routed for P90s. I don't know if I want three of 'em though. But then again...

    What kind of pickups would y'all do? And how many? Would you go all three?
     
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    I had been looking at the seller that does the pine bodies. I was thinking FB with reverse tele headstock & single P90.

    Owning a FBVII copy I'd stay away from the 3 pickups. I've been chasing down a good wiring scheme for years.

    Tim can build an authentic FB pickup.
     
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    I've used a Rosser pine body with very good results (I think that's who @idiotsdelight is referring too). I have also heard good things about Saylor guitar bodies. Both those guys will make you pretty much whatever you want.

    Next one is like to do is a non reverse firebird with 3 p90s. Id do a 5 way switch with 1 volume 1 tone. And if I don't make it myself Ill order from Rosser.
     
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    I'd like an ash FB shape, that'd be sweet!

    Personally, I'd go with a dual HB setup. I rarely need anything more than just a single HB, but that's just me. Alternatively, it's rare to see a tele or strat pup config in a firebird.
     
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    I looked at those other guys too, but what I have in mind is something like a natural or possibly stained/dyed finish, so I want something with some nice grain.

    I've always thought - besides a Strat - three pickups on a guitar is a little over the top and unnecessary. But it sure looks cool!

    The reason I want to do P90s is simply because I haven't had a sold-body guitar with P90s for some time, and I've always wanted a Firebird, so why not?.

    I'm pretty satisfied in the humbucker department right now, and I never cared for mini-hums that much. Though now that I think of it, I cant say I've tried a lot of them.

    Considering how thrilled I am about Tim's rewind of my Casino P90s, I'll definitely have him make me a set of soapbars.
     
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    Well, I haven't heard back from that seller yet, so I contacted Saylor, who had this posted:

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    I asked if they could make one of these in ash or mahogany in different configurations and he responded immediately and told me he had hard, heavy northern ash and mahogany. He said that all custom orders are handled through their website and gave me the url (not a link): https://sites.google.com/site/saylorguitars/

    I copied and pasted the url and ended up at a parked page with their email address and a list of the information they want you to provide (body style, wood type, pickups, control layout, etc.) and .

    I could go either way with the wood choice. I was hoping it wouldn't be northern ash, though. The fact that the seller felt the need to point out that it's heavy doesn't bode well with me. I'm sure he can give me an average weight for each wood. Could it be heavier than mahogany? I don't know why I get hung up on the weight of guitars. I've been playing bass longer than I've been playing guitar and a 10lb. bass doesn't bother me, but a 10lb. guitar does?

    I'm also torn because, I like the first body a little better. I like the longer horn and the kind of explorer-ish influence. But if that guy can't be bothered to answer my question, what can I do?
     
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    A little more refinement... I'm thinking if I get a mahogany body, I'll probably stain it cherry and use black hardware and plastics. Kinda like this but with P90s:

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    I got my eye on an unfinished lefty Allparts Strat neck with a rosewood board and I'll reshape the headstock.

    If I do ash, it will be a natural finish with black hardware and plastics. Couldn't find any pics of ash Firebirds online, which makes me want to build one even more.

    I'm thinking of relocating the switch to the upper bout or doing away with it all together and go VBT. I'm not a big fan of the 2V/2T setup anymore. Don't think I ever was, really.

    Has anyone ever done a series/parallel switch w/ P90s? I did the 4-way switch mod to my Tele a while back and that puts a smile on my face every time. I imagine P90s would sound either epic, or horrific wired in series.
     
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    I heard back from the guy who makes the first FB-style body... Turns out, somehow, I never sent the message I thought I had. At least there was no history of it in my messages. So I sent another message asking if he had other woods and he replied quickly, stating that he can do mahogany, but it'll cost $179 (as opposed to about $110 for Linden).

    Part of me thinks that's a high price for an unfinished mahogany body, on the other hand, this is a custom piece that I can have made to my specifications, so another part of me is saying it's a fair price.

    I'm going to email Saylor and get some prices from them before I make up my mind. I do like the first one a little better, though. The one from Saylor is more accurate to a Gibson FB, but I think the first body (still can't remember the name of the seller) looks a little more stylish to me.
     
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    Mossman, care to let us know who your 1st choice vendor was?
     
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    well I just checked out "saylors" ebay bodies and I have a question. I asked him through one of his ebay sales, but never got a reply.

    I'd like a thinline strat, and I'm kinda backed up to make one myself.

    so i asked him through ebay, and didnt get a reply.

    But if you look at the last picture on the thinlline strat page. the one that shows a close up of the body near the "trem route" (strange trem route it is) and the edge of the pickguard it looks like 2 holes were drilled for a TOM or w5rap around bridge? I know hes not billing it as a thinline strat, but it looks similar eh?

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    A Firebird is my last frontier for guitar acquisition. I am letting this one last and being extremely picky.
     
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    Remember, the Firebird has a HUGE body. Ash might be ungodly heavy in this application.
    Now a classic, 3-piece FB with Ash in the middle and lighter wood wings? That might be awesome.
     
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    IMHO, this depends. If he's simply pulling it off of the CNC router and chucking it into a shipping box, then I agree that price is on the high end. However, if he's doing the finish prep work and sanding and the body has been dry fitted for parts and arrives ready for paint/sealer, $179 is reasonable.
     
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    I haven't really moved forward on this, since I have a couple of other projects that I need to finish up first.

    I never got a response back from Saylor regarding prices for ash and mahogany.

    On their contact page it says: "Lists are helpful, essays will be ignored". I guess my short message asking for prices must have qualified as an "essay".

    I like the body from the first vendor better (can't remember the name off the top of my head). $180 is a little more than I was expecting to pay for an unfinished body, but I think I'll probably end up going with them.
     
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    Yeah, it's not a crazy high price. I just can't help thinking about the mahogany Tele body that cost me $125 from Rock Audio. But that was a raw, unsanded, unprepped body.
     
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    Something about ash fb body totally fits with a bolt on fender neck. A mahogany body seems to require a fixed neck in my mind.
     
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    Yeah, when Saylor specified 'heavy northern ash', it gave me pause. An ash Firebird sure would look beautiful, though. If I could get an alder, or even basswood body with an ash or flame top, that would be nice too. But I don't know if either of these guys do that, and I'm scared of how much that'll cost.
     
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