NAD Tweed Deluxe (5e3) Clone - Amazing Tone

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    jimytheassassin Well-Known Member

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    I received this last week. What I expected was a cabinet and some parts...nothing functional but good for a Tweed Harvard (5f10) that I imagined would look good in this chassis. I bought this for a song. Looked a little risky but still worth the risk.

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    Then it arrived and i opened her up.. low and behold. I am one lucky bastard. Hand wired 5e3...but does it work? Well the rectifier was shorted, but after replacing that everything tested good to go!

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    High quality stuff in here, including a Mercury Magnetics OT, and USA made PT. It came with sovtek 12ax7's and chinese 6v6, but I put some new Tung-Sol 6v6gt in their place.. sounds good and quiet paird with my Weber signature 10s alnico speaker. For now it is living in the purple 2x10 cabinet, but I will definitely be moving it to a more suitable cabinet after I sell some gear to fund it.

    SOUND: amazing. I've never played a tweed deluxe but after hearing people talk about THIS circuit being so much fun.. I have to completely agree. The volume and tone interaction is flat out fun. Jumpering channels is another layer of fun on top of that. The interaction is a little perplexing at first because it defies how amps normally respond today. After watching a 30 minute video on the settings, theory and then played examples.. i think i sort of get it. My band mates were floored at how rock 'n' roll this thing is. It also had zero issue playing overtop my drummer at practice.. volume to spare. If i was worried I'd just mic it through the PA. Pedals sound better/louder than with my Marshall JCM800.

    In summary, if you haven't played a Fender Tweed Deluxe (5e3) and get the chance to.. I can't imagine you won't love it. It will completely rewire how you think of playing with amp and guitar settings. Interaction is the key. If you have questions feel free to ask away.
     
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    In light of the buyouts I've seen around the the web... I half wonder if this purple cabinet was a retro king that never made it to market. I can't find a Marshall 18 watt 2x10 cabinet anywhere


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    I'd nickname it "The Haze."
     
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    That is hot as hell. What a steal! Gorgeious with her clothes off, too. HNAD!
     
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    Really nice! What speaker?
     
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    Very nice. some lead dress is a bit iffy and I cant make out the grounding scheme but if it is reasonably quiet at volume for hum, etc. sounds like a winner.

    I love mine.
    It may have been said but there are a few mods worth checking out if you are able here:
    https://robrobinette.com/5e3_Modifications.htm

    rob seems to really know his stuff.

    I have the swtichable NFB / cathode bypass cap and it does make quite a difference. I'm also just needing time to do the lead channel (conversion of the Normal channel) and the Master Volume.

    I'm running all JJ's right now, with a 12ay7 at v1 (some have 12ax7 there) in a 1x12 combo with the Weber Signature Alnico 12.
     
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    Ted Weber signature 10s smooth cone alnico


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    Ya I've been reading robs many articles on that and so many other topics. What a great resource it is!

    Yes I agree with the wiring. It looks a bit rushed but the amp is super quiet and I haven't even rolled any tubes through it since receiving it to see what more might crisp up...besides running a 5u4gb briefly. Still running the sovtek 12ax7a in both V2 and V2. I didn't check any component values yet to see how close it follows fender design or if changes were made to V1 for the 12ax7 in leu of a 12ay7. Once I see exactly what I have, I may consider some of those simple but effective mods. Right now however, I am just loving it.


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    That wiring doesn't look bad. I see a 2.7meg resistor,that small one that is not like the others, i have no idea what that is doing there. You have to figure, when they were building these in a factory, they were not made with perfectly neat wires and completely parallel components. The boss shows them how to do it , then walks away. The employee then goes back to how he was building it anyway. I do the same when winding strat pickups, they are far from visual perfection as they should be. I have seen some very nice builds but have also seen electrical engineers who couldn't find the power switch on a oscilloscope.
     
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    Why is one side dropped lower than the other?
     
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    I have a weber 12A125-A that I need to drop in my Richter 5e3 that i bought a while back.
    Good wishes with that amp.
     
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    Excellent choice!

    I have a Marshall 4x1 with (2) Webe 10A125 20w Alnico and (2) Blue Pup Alnico 10's that I love. Just sent Weber my JBL D130F for recone, as I found it had a D140 cone. i can't wait to get it back!
     
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    I'm assuming you're referring to the first post where the back panel is removed. It was shipped that way. Flopping in the breeze on its bolt mounted arrangement. An even bigger question I have is who the hell spent the time to mill 1/4 aluminum sheet metal to adapt this deluxe chassis to a Marshall style combo amp cabinet.

    I pulled that all apart for testing and then bolted it all back together tightly.

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    Nice! I like the Weber speakers and definitely have some of those selections on a wish list. The sig 10 I have was living in a custom cabinet I built. I pulled it out for the deluxe. But it does sound excellent. I'm looking forward to a video review but have just been too busy to set that up yet.


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    There's not much that makes me jealous, but dammit man, this deal kills me. I wanted a 5E3 Deluxe for thirty years. I busted my hump finally building a 5E3 Tweed Deluxe replica last summer. I love it, but it cost a lot of money, took forever to get all of the parts, and was a pain in the ass to build. You won the scrounge hound lottery, Chief.
     
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    I know i'm one lucky sonofabitch, and i did a little dance to the gear gods when this came into full view. I have had a Fender harvard halfway built for years. This amp actually might get me to finish it now that i see and hear all the vintage-y goodness. My wishful plan right now is to swap some gear around and fund a proper lacquered tweed cabinet for this. Should cost about $250 from what i see, and i think that would be worth it.
     
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