Update: Your Opinion On An Al Series Double Cutaway Version?

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Would you consider buying an Agile AL series double cutaway?

  1. Yes, I'd be interested in one...

  2. Umm, I don't think so...

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  1. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Acting on some of my musings about a possible Agile version inspired by the Yamaha SG/SBG guitar series and Pat Travers' Custom Shop double cutaway Les Paul , @kirobhan was kind enough to come up with a couple images.

    Kurt has indicated that he's open to developing new models based on customer input so before I passed this one on to him to consider, I thought it would be a good idea to get input from AGF.

    So let me know what you think and any preferences or suggestions as to specs and finishes you might have if it's something you'd consider purchasing.

    Pics below of the Gibson, Yamaha and the possible Agile prototype model. TIA:

    PAT_TRAVERS_02.jpg yamaha SG2000.jpg al3100dcccsbflh1.png al3200dcccsbf3.jpg
     
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  2. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Another similar one - Epiphone Genesis:

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    stevebway Metaphysician & Ham

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    I don't want to piss anyone off but as I look at these pics I can feel my intestines churning. NOT a good sign.
    My delusionary image is a guitar with a BODY that is pretty much a Gibson DC with real looking horns, NOT Wilshire-Like with an Agile headstock which I prefer to Gibson.
    Is what I have described above available in this or any Universe ?
    I'm not trying to be a cramp. I just want to know if the image I have in my head is a possibility or a co-opting of the Mona Lisa.
    First pic is least objectionable to me.
     
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    Yep the first pic,yes, the shorthorns. NO
     
  5. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    NO it is then as Gibson horns are unfortunately not going to be possible....
     
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    stevebway Metaphysician & Ham

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    I could almost see the Agile one if the dimensions of the body were scaled down a bit. The short horns are are a no go.
     
  7. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Yeah, the standard Agile horns are a problem for me too. I wonder if the horns on the ALD-3010SEs which aren't quite as blunt might work? Anything Gibson-like is out because of a previous C&D:

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    DonM Well-Known Member Supporting Member+ Supporting Member

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    Not for me.
     
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    Don't think it's for me either. Out of all the pictures above I actually like the Yamaha the best. Admittedly I've been eyeing up Revstars lately.
     
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    No, UNLESS we can somehow get pointier longer horns . Perhaps like an ALD just more Gibsonesque without violating the c&d or bringing the wrath of corporate lawyers down on Kurt.
     
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    if it were closer to the Yammy SG's horn to lower bout ratio perhaps
    as the Agile mock up looks weird and kind of "wimpy" with them teeny shoulders
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    perhaps if it were closer to Malcolms Gretsch

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  13. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Yeah, the upper/lower proportions of the body and thickness of the waist seem off to me too. Hopefully, someone here with photo editing skills can modify those pictures to adjust for that and repost them...
     
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    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I don't think there ever was a lefty version of the AD-3000, just the AD-2000 and AD-2500. Anyway, besides the original AD-2200, Gibson didn't like those either...
     
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    I like the shape and proportions on the yammy SGB.
     
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    The only double cutaway I've ever loved are the SBG series Yamahas. He'd have to get copyright-infringement-lawsuit-level close to that shape to get my attention.
     
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    didn't you used to love these..

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    it gets me "high" thinking about owning a vintage Ibanez AR-420



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    Maybe i'm missing something, but rondo used to make an AD-2000/3000/3000m - is there a reason he couldn't re-issue that?

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    Ah, yes, the Reverend Sensei!

    I still love 'em. It's like a slightly offset SBG, and the neck shapes are awfully similar in shape and feel. That guitar is the closest you can get to a vintage SBG 2000 without forking over for the real thing, afaik.

    I shoulda bought one (or three) right after that guy brought the Reverend name back. They were only $500 then, and a shop near me had a bunch. I'd kick myself, but it wasn't the right time in my life to be hemorraging cash for guitars.

    I may still have one someday. They're lovely, and the railhammer pups have only gotten better since then.
     
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