Well, I Tried A Thing

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  1. JeffBeck

    JeffBeck Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Got a glossy black Squier Strat body for s project I’ve been wanting to do. Nothing special - just had all the bits and bobs to put together a nice little strat for my son. He wants a matte finish on it and also wants Mustang type stripes. So being the genius I am I decide to tape off the stripes and put a matte finish on it leaving the stripes in a reverse glossy black.

    Went straight to hell. Here’s the evidence.
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    When I pulled off the tape the edges of the finish came off, too. Probably should have scored the edges with an exacto-knife.
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    Not sure if I’m going to strip and redo or just put stickers over the offending areas. Up to my son I suppose since I’m making it for him.
     
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    JeffBeck Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Now I’m thinking that I might re-tape the stripes and then scrub the piss out of the body with #0000 steel wool. That might give me the matte finish I want and clean up the edges, too.
     
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    Take the tape off before it dries, but not so wet it will creep.
     
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    That's worth doing right. Sweet idea.
     
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    I like it - consider picking up some chrome pinstripe tape and do the edges
     
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    Hey, if you never fuck up then you're not trying.

    It's a good idea.
     
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    It was a good idea. So what do you think happened? Bad tape? Pulled tape off too soon ? Or too late? Overly ambitious?

    Maybe take a stab at taking the center matte strip back down to gloss so that you have one big wide gloss stripe to work with. Then tape that off and spray matte over that. The outside edges aren't too bad on the front. The back, well, no one's going to see the back.
     
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    I'm gonna say you didnt sand the area you painted matte then when you pulled off the tape everything near it came up with it. No adhesion.
     
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    That's what I was thinking, too. I was going to ask if you sanded the body prior to painting. The new paint needs that rough surface in order to stick.
     
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    Yup, should have sanded. I’ll re-tape and see if I can’t sand down around the edges and then redo the matte.
     
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    We actually talked about doing that last night. Might wind up happening.
     
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    Ha! Probably all of that!
     
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    Oh man, I learned this the hard way when I refinished the fuchsia Strat... In this situation (stripes) I think pulling the tape off (carefully) before the poly completely dries (as @Sinster suggested) may have been the best way to go. If pulling the tape after the poly dries; always, always always score the tape edges!

    Also, I'm done with hardware store painter's tape. The next time I need to mask something off, I'm going to use automotive masking tape, or pinstriping tape. Something that's more solvent resistant.
     
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    Very good advice. Wish I had bothered asking before I jumped in with both feet.

    Also, my fuck-uperry continues past the finish. Didn't bother measuring or even asking about the thickness of the body, so now I have to source a shallow block bridge for it. I can get past the shoddy lines on the stripes, but I'm not certain I could - or even should - ignore the 1/8" or so of block hanging out the bottom of the body. When it rains it pours, I suppose.

    So, anybody got a shallow block bridge for sale? I know a dumb ass that needs one. Asking for a friend.
     
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    Hmm. No but I have a father in law that does. Didn't even consider that since I don't have one.
     
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    Haha... Yeah, that's all par for the course sometimes. You get all fixated on dealing with one thing, then you realize the pots you bought are too big for the control cavity, or your pickup won't fit right, or something.

    You can refer to any one of my build/mod threads if you want to feel better. :)
     
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    That's my thought too. Problem is how do you scuff it up right next to the tape without either not stuffing right next to the tape , where you need it most or damaging the finish into the tape some messing up the gloss stripe the other way? Could you same onto the tape but the tape still fully protect the stripe?
     
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    I fixed it (mostly) this morning. I just re-taped and scuffed up where the finish lifted since it was all “outside” the tape. I used #0000 steel wool so it didn’t really mess up the tape edges. Got it with a couple of quick coats of finish and then removed the tape. Not perfect but a definite improvement.

    Looks much more obvious in these pics than in reality. But there’s definitely a “relic” vibe going on, which my son actually really likes - so...success! Those torn looking edges aren’t anywhere near as obvious in real life.
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    You'd definitely want to sand "with the tape" not acrossed it. Be careful because you just want to scuff it up. You could also try a deglosser type product that you brush on but first and foremost you want to clean the surface to get any grime and grease ans what not off the surface.
     
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