NSFW What's On Your Work Bench Today?

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  1. Lefty Leo

    Lefty Leo Well-Known Member Premium Gold Supporting Member

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    I’ve got a old headstock Agile that looks like antifreeze green and a Dillion (Just adding a Dillion Guitar here to show its no only Agile that has the weird green/gold colors) that reminds me of a 1970’s Dodge or Plymouth green.
    The Agile 3100M I just picked up for my son is an actual gold color.
    @tobijohn might be able to shed some light on the Green Top, Gold Top thing. Not sure if it’s factory related, model related or batch related. DF415F29-57BA-4F2C-9940-1DA12CE9C1F4.jpeg
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  2. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    The AL-2000s came from a different factory than the AL-3xxx guitars. And I think the reason the Dillion and Agile 3xxx series GTs are the same color (and there are other similarities as well) is because I suspect back then they both came from the same factory...
     
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  3. LongBlackTie

    LongBlackTie Well-Known Member

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    Where’s Madjack?
     
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  4. Dennis

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    The Agile and Dillon GT's did come out of the same factory and the finish specs were to get as close to an aged Gibson as possible. I grabbed this off the net, does a better job of explaining than I could.

    "Original Gold Top powder as first used by Gibson in 1952 for the Les Paul model is actually a fine bronze powder. Bronze powder, as opposed to a mica powder, will show a slight green iridescence as do original Les Pauls they are when viewed at an angle".
     
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  5. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I misread what @Lefty Leo said as my Dillion GT has the same greenless gold finish as a couple older AL-3xxx GTs I have as well as an AS-1000 GT while my two AL-2000 GTs have that green undertone. It's interesting that Dillion GTs came with both versions...
     
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  6. thomas.kropelnic

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    1968 lyle hollow body
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  7. glasshand

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    Finally got the Kramer Peavey body stripped and about 90% sanded. Some of the red you see there actually seems to be places where the old body color seeped through the sealer or something and stained the wood.

    Now to fill in some minor dings. Since I'm going to have a solid finish, I figure regular old wood putty should be good enough.

    EDIT: s/Kramer/Peavey It's Kramer-ish, but not a Kramer.

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  8. andrewsrea

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    Actually completed last weekend.

    Fretboard: removed factory sanding chatter on the fingerboard, tinted it with a cherry-chocolate stain I mixed from powders, then leveled-crowned-dressed-rounded the edges, polished the frets and oiled. I really love the way it turned out. Very late early 60's looking:

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    For the next photo, I really should have taken a 'before' shot. I believe @golem may have seen this before, but the side edge which would normally face the floor and at the point where it meets the top-edge of the headstock (the 'open book'), had a 15mm x 8m ding right down to bare wood. Probably the most difficult area to fix, without having to sand, repaint & buff. First step was to clean with Naptha. Then wet the area and swell it with a soldering iron and a wet paper towel. Sand a little, then drop-fill.

    This is my first drop-fill technique using an extremely viscous super glue and accelerator. I've done this before with lacquer, which works marvelously with lacquer finishes, but there are witness marks with synthetic finishes. So with the super glue technique, you stain or paint the first layer and quickly build up layers of glue. Then you scrape and sand it level, eventually polishing. There was some learning as the spray accelerator would want to blow the super glue all over and I had some additional sanding an polishing because of that. This method left less witness marks and I could see if you had practice, this would be a fraction of time for other methods. Polishing without a buffer wheel was a chore and I still have a little left. Some day I'll breakdown and buy one. This was hard to get a clean photo,t as most of what you see are reflections...

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    Last is also drop fill, one good and one I'll have to live with. This is on the guitars' back, shown north of where the blue tape is. On both, I thought there was enough of the original stain to start with the drop fill. As you can see, I was right with the lower one and wrong where the red begins to fade into the burst. I'd have to dig out the repair and match stain, which if this was another person's axe, I would do. For me, I am living with it. On the lower one, it came out as good as expected. This was a 0.5mm x 11mm scrape, down to wood. You can't see it in the photo and if I did not point it out to you, you would think it was a faint grain pattern difference.

    I did a few more drop-fills which I did not photograph, which came out flawless. I also hand-rubbed all the swirls and scratches out. Looks like it was played a week after taken home from a music store.


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    Today will be mounting the tuners and strap buttons. I am stuck for the bridge which is being shipped.
     
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    Dry fitting day. A lot of work remains to be done. The pot hole, the tremolo rout, and the pickup rout (?!) all need to be enlarged a hair. (You can see some pencil marks on the body where I made notes.) The wretched wood-putty "repair" on the jack hole needs to be fixed. And I have to figure out exactly what to do with the tremolo posts; probably open up the holes and put in the proper Gotoh bushings rather than trying to use the Kahler screws that fit the current bushings. But I feel like the fundamentals are good.

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    tvvoodoo Well-Known Member AGF Registered Dealer

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    bound to be plenty of things on the various AGF workbenches this weekend. In-between power outages and hailstorms I'm working on this
    his and hers matched set.

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    Last night this happened about ten miles from my home on a nearby lake



    we were outside in the yard, I've never seen lighting or heard thunder roll continuously, just a constant roar. Took a minute of sky video
    and, not even moving the camera on one place straight above, I counted 32 lightning bolts in only about a minute of video. So bright it kind of drove my phone camera crazy.
    Then it started to hail and I headed inside.

    Fuck just as I'm writing this its hailing again.
     
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    Just a few templates to cut out...

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    Just trace the lines. Like kindergarten, but with power tools.
     
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    No guitar gear work this week. Today the most important task is getting the smoker ready for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

    We got our Lang smoker on July 2 1997, so it is about to hit 22 and needs a little maintenance. One of the pivot bolts for the air intakes broke and the nuts inside the firebox on all 4 were
    rusted in place. A little work with the grinder and some new stainless hardware and they are spinning better then new.

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    Next up, cleaning out all the grease. You can use chemicals and tons of effort, but not my style. I build a big fire and get it up over 450, then hit it with a weed burner torch. The grease burns up to a crumbly dry carbon that then brushes out easily.

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    Picking up a fresh load of hickory and a couple hundred pounds of meat on Tuesday and then I will be ready for the 4th!
     
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    Nice. I have a Masterbuilt, but pales in comparison to yours. Couple hundred pounds of meat. Plan on storing up for the year?
     
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    No, large crowds expected Wednesday through Saturday. Most if not all will be gone by Friday. I didn’t pick something that big just for a family of 4!
     
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    No picture, but I managed to get the puttied-in jack out of the Peavey body. Fortunately the putty was pretty soft. I drilled a series of small holes in a circle around the jack; took a smaller drill bit and drilled holes in between the first holes; put a ball-point cutter bit in the Dremel and joined the circle of holes into an open circle, rinsed and repeated as necessary until the jack was cut free of the putty. It took a while but it worked out pretty well. I'd been afraid I wasn't going to be able to get the jack out without making an enormous hole, but the end result was actually fine. Afterwards I used a sanding drum to smooth out the hole.

    And, in a bit of good luck, I checked the pot hole again, and discovered that I don't have to open it up, so that's two things off the list. This evening I'll go get my router out of storage and start really planning the tremolo and pickup work.
     
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    I know many of you are all saying "i have one of those on my workbench right now too", maybe not, crystal ball has been hazy lately. When you find these for $5, you buy them, mainly for the 1962 Mullard 5AR4 inside and the ceramic sockets. Then you think, it's gonna be a guitar amp head, 18 watt Marshall this time, minimalist, 1 input, vol, tone, no trem.


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    Then reality hits, 410 volts, EL84's will melt. Putin saves the day. Those 50 pieces of Russian 6P14P-k (russian el84) you bought saves the day.

    These will spec at a higher voltage and dissipation wattage (14w), yet they are plug and play. 300volt for el84, 6bq5, these are closer to 500v. I have the amp 50% finished and ran the output section for 1 hour. Voltages are......410v plate, 365v screen, 13.5v on 250 ohm cathode resistor.

    Didn't blow up, usually a good sign. These tubes are from 1971 OTK and CCCP marked.

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    Last but not least a old radio, 1929 Atwater Kent, made near here in Philadelphia. This has guitar amp written all over it. To rebuild it as a radio, i would have to redo the power supply, they are incased in tar, lots of it. Messy job, stinky job. Talk me out of it. Speaker paper cone is practically 100% gone, so would have to get sent out to a field coil specialist for recone. Will get put in the corner until i decide.

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    Dry fitting round 2. Opened up the tremolo and pickup routs ever so slightly and now things fit better. However, I discovered that the jack hole needs to be opened up a bit more (not a big deal) and I discovered what seems like an issue with the concentric pot and knob set I ordered. The knob set is the kind that goes on with set screws. But when you tighten down the set screws, the pots are no longer concentric on the shaft. Even that would be tolerable were it not for the fact that this is a concentric knob set, so the two parts have to stay coaxial, or they bind against each other. I'm kind of baffled by that, because it seems like an obvious problem. I can only guess that I did not in fact get a matching set.


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    Last night I realized that even though the Peavey is far from done, I had everything I needed to actually get sound out of it (two strings, pickup, output jack), so I twisted the pickup wires directly onto the jack wires and plugged into the Orange.

    It wasn't quite a Frankensteinian "IT'S ALIVE!" moment but it was definitely Frankenstein learning that he could make a dead frog's leg twitch again with electricity. Even with my janky test setup, I could tell that the Railhammer pickup sounds good, and the Gotoh/Wilkinson tremolo is doing a great job of returning to pitch. Even the action was pretty damn good with no adjustment at all.
     
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    Well, my workbench is pretty full with projects right now lol. Gotta get some tools and parts first though.
    I gotta get ahold of a locking but for my js32rr so I can play it again.
    Direly need to level the frets on my explorer.
    The LTD V needs frets leveled now, I've worked 2 low spots into it over the last few years(2nd fret B string and I think it was the 16th or 17th fret on the same string).
    Really need to get around to rewiring my old "signature series" LP and my Tele, really the Tele needs a new switch and the jack could stand to be replaced.
     

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