Your Opinion On An Al Series Double Cutaway Version?

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Would you consider buying an Agile AL series double cutaway?

  1. Yes, I'd be interested in one...

  2. Umm, I don't think so...

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  1. mighty_duck

    mighty_duck Well-Known Member

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    3200. But if a 3100mcc came in with a finish I like more than a 3200, I'd be in a pickle.
     
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    It'll cost me about $185 just to ship (including required hard case outside lower 48), I might as well be all in and get a neck-thru, carved heal, etc. My vote is 3200.

    Also I honestly feel there is more risk getting a rootbeer flame than a spalted. I don't know if I've seen a spalted that I thought was horrendous. Some more interesting than others but nothing ugly (unless you just hate spalted).
     

  4. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    UPDATE (from this morning) - so much for that idea:

    "As for customer selecting individual finishes specifically for themselves - I would rather not get into that - partially for reasons demonstrated by the Oceanburst finish variations. Without having greater control (which would require partial factory ownership or at least flying over there to inspect imo) I just cannot trust the finish process enough to get a perfect color match."

    In my reply, I asked if he was open to initial runs of both AL3100MCCs and AL-3200MCCs, how many of each and how many different finishes in each...
     
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    rsckrc91 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks again TJ for taking the lead on this. I know it's like herding cats, and a friggin headache dealing with us and Kurt. I do appreciate your efforts.

    As far as colors, I still say solid, transparent colors on this initial run. Any combination of natural (either plain, flame or spalted), brown / walnut (same), dark blue (flame or quilt) and wine red (flame or quilt).
    Reserve the burst finishes for later runs.
    Just my $.02.
    Scott
     
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    So, are these in stock yet?
     
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    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    UPDATE (from late this afternoon):

    "Anyway in an effort to try to catch the last production run of 2019 I scheduled a small run of the AD-3200 (arch to double cut away model with contoured back) with Oceanburst, 2TS and Satin Blue/ Purple. We can continue working on revising the current AD-2250 Flat top model, but realistically will not see any until 2020. We will want to have a final draft of V 2.0 by say June 30th or soon (final colors and configuration)."

    I replied asking the following:

    1) Where is the pickup selector switch location?
    2) Is there anything currently on the website with the satin blue/purple color scheme?
    3) What kind of tops (flame/quilt/etc)?
    4) Any left-handed ones and if so, which colors?

    Subsequent to replying I did a search for "Agile satin blue/purple" and this turned up:
    https://www.rondomusic.com/Agile_Legacy_Plus_BluePurpleburst.html

    Whatever colors and shape that these 3200s turn out to be, I get the impression from his reply that they should be in stock before the end of the year. So as far as the AL double cutaway is concerned, it looks like there's nothing else to do now but wait...
     
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    sabasgr68 Well-Known Member

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    This is one AD3200 - it belong(ed?) to @PsychoCid

    This shape should please many, I think. 2ts shouldn´t look bad on it.

    ad3200.jpeg
     
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    Just NO.
     
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    Ugh. All roll the dice bursts?

    I think AL means Agile Les Paul to Kurt so AD-3200 means Agile Doublecut 3200 where presumably 3200 is neck through arch top.

    Keeping my fingers crossed that at least one of these shows up in a non-clown burst and finds its way to me by the holiday season.
     
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  11. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I'm really hoping that AD 3200 model prefix was a typo...
     
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    Good news! I'm very curious how these will turn out.
    Called it a few pages ago :)

    As a Kurt tea leaf reader, I'm also predicting a plain top on the 2ts (was hoping for a flame here, oh well).
     
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    Why? The AD-3000m is what he called the arch top double cut version of the AL-3000m.

    https://www.rondomusic.com/AD-3000MTRIBALBLUE.HTML

    A neck through version of that called an AD-3200MCC with the same specs as the AL-3200MCC would seem to make sense to me.
     
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    Is it too late to ask him to change the 2TS to tobacco? That is what he ordered for the next batch of 3200’s.
     
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    Exactly.
    The D stands for double cut.

    AD-3200 will be a double cut archtop.
     
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    And double quote! :D
     
  17. tobijohn

    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    It's not a symmetrical double cutaway. It's also the Gibson shape which is why it was supposedly discontinued and the reason for the AD-2250 shape...

    I'll ask him that as well as clarification on AD vs. AL if his response to my last email doesn't clear that up. He did mention though previously that those three finishes were his best sellers...
     
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    Sometimes you are so right that you need to be quoted twice! ;)

    And while I'm hoping for a tobacco burst as well, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that the 2ts will be very close to what we consider tobacco. All recent examples from the 3100/3200 factory back that up. Then again, that factory has a way of surprising even Kurt...
     
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    I don’t think the D is anywhere near that specific. Just like AL meant Agile Les Paul through several variations of headstock, horn shape and body thickness, I think AD simply means Agile Double cut and the AD-3200 will be the symmetrical harm shape and not the same as any of the prior AD shapes.
     
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    tobijohn The Great Enabler Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I sure hope you're right about that. We could use some NSA codebreakers to decipher Kurt's nomenclature...
     

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